"Rubber Bullets" - 10cc  
       
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      Topic: "Rubber Bullets" - 10cc
       
      Posted By: sriv94
       Subject: "Rubber Bullets" - 10cc
       Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 11:07am
       
      
        
          
	
Yes, I know it wasn't a Top-40 BILLBOARD hit, but I've seen CDs with (4:43) and (5:15) run times of this tune (for some reason, I didn't remember (4:43) as being the correct 45 time).  Anybody know the correct 45 length for "Rubber Bullets" and whether the 45 can be extracted from the LP?
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      Posted By: jimct
       
      Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 2:48pm
       
      
        
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Doug, my mono commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:50), and an actual time of (3:49). No Top 40 stations 'round my way happened to play this song back in 1973, so I don't happen to be familiar enough with it to speak about whether or not the CD version could be edited down to make the correct 45 version. However, if you'd like me to shoot out a 45 dub, to aid you with your own "version comparison research", just let me know, my friend.
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      Posted By: satchdr
       
      Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 7:39pm
       
      
        
          
	
Doug, the album version that appears on Varese Sarabande's "10cc:  The Complete UK Recordings" runs 5:15 and the UK single version that appears on the same set runs 3:44.  This Varese set is great, as it contains the complete albums of "10cc" and "Sheet Music" as well as the UK single versions of "Hot Sun Rock," "4% Of Something," "Waterfall," "Bee In My Bonnet," "Donna," "Johnny, Don't Do It," "Rubber Bullets," "The Dean And I," "Carat Man Of Means," "Gismo My Way," "The Wall Street Shuffle" and "The Worst Band In The World (Lyric Two)."  It's a great set if you are a 10cc fan.
 
 Dan
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      Posted By: sriv94
       
      Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 8:01am
       
      
        
          
	
Just out of curiosity, Dan, are the UK and US singles of "Rubber Bullets" different?  (The timings are about five seconds apart, which would seem to indicate that there might be at least one difference.)
 
 Jim has E-mailed me a dub of his mono 45, which I thank him for (won't get to hear it until at least tonight--my computer at work doesn't have a sound card).
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      Posted By: satchdr
       
      Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 9:15pm
       
      
        
          
	
 
  sriv94 wrote:
  Just out of curiosity, Dan, are the UK and US singles of "Rubber Bullets" different?  (The timings are about five seconds apart, which would seem to indicate that there might be at least one difference.)
 
 Jim has E-mailed me a dub of his mono 45, which I thank him for (won't get to hear it until at least tonight--my computer at work doesn't have a sound card). |    
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      Posted By: satchdr
       
      Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 9:17pm
       
      
        
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Doug, I don't know the difference between the two.  I only have the versions that appear on the Varese set and on my vinyl of "10cc."  If I find out, I'll let you know.  Dan
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      Posted By: sriv94
       
      Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 9:18pm
       
      
        
          
	
After hearing Jim's dub and trying to replicate the edit points (which I think I got), here's my new question.
 
 My LP version (which runs (5:21)) is well sped up compared to the 45 dub Jim sent.  In order to replicate the edits, I sped Jim's 45 to match the LP (I suppose I could've slowed down the LP too).  After making the edits, my version ran (3:44), then I slowed it back down to the (3:48) run time of Jim's dub.
 
 So I wonder if the UK single is the US 45 but faster  (don't know whether the UK 45 was mono or stereo either, for that matter).
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