"Here Comes the Rain Again" - Eurythmics
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Topic: "Here Comes the Rain Again" - Eurythmics
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Subject: "Here Comes the Rain Again" - Eurythmics
Date Posted: 16 December 2006 at 11:56am
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Pat:
I think I've uncovered a difference in length between the 45 and LP of the Eurythmics' "Here Comes the Rain Again". The database states that commercial 45 copies of this song run 5:05, yet the song is shown with a run time of 4:53 on the parent LP/CD Touch (RCA 4917). Although I don't have that particular CD, I do have the 3-CD various artist set Hits of the 80's (Columbia River Entertainment Group 310001) where the song runs 4:52 and fades out :13 sooner than the 45 length. Assuming this early faded version is what appears on the Eurythmics' Touch CD, it might not be a bad idea to note which discs in the database contain the (45 length) and (LP length). |
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 8:00pm
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Regarding the Eurythmics's "Here Comes the Rain Again", the database currently states that commercial copies are all 5:05. This must be based on the time stated on the record label because abagon reports the actual run time at 5:03. I know this is just another instance of a nominal two second difference, but the 5:03 time seems to be more in line with most of the song's database CD appearances containing the "45 length" comment.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 28 August 2008 at 7:21am
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Pat:
It's been brought to my attention that the correct actual commercial 45 run time of "Here Comes the Rain Again" is 5:07. The time I reported in my previous post is incorrect. This now means all database CD appearances containing a "45 length" comment all run at least :03 shorter than the commercial 45. Sorry for any confusion. |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 28 August 2008 at 9:30am
| Would this be a result of the 45 version being sourced from the 1991 Eurythmics Greatest Hits master? I've noticed most if not all songs featured fade two to five seconds early. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 28 August 2008 at 7:47pm
I'll have to check, but I'm pretty sure that CD uses the short radio edit of HCTRA. |
Underground Dub wrote:Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 28 August 2008 at 9:13pm
| I didn't think the short radio edit was available on CD. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 4:44am
| According to the database, the short radio edit of "Here Comes the Rain Again" running 3:50 has not yet appeared on CD. But, Hykker, let us know if your Eurythmics Greatest Hits does have the edit because it's always possible there could have been two different CD pressings. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 7:34pm
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Could've sworn my GH disc had the edit, but it's the long version.
This CD DOES have the short version of "Who's That Girl". Not sure which version was on the stock 45, all I've ever seen were promos. |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 20 June 2011 at 6:54pm
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Can the 3:52 promo version be created from either the 45 or LP length versions?
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Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 20 June 2011 at 7:42pm
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The Touch and Greatest Hits masters are approximately the same length, but each fade at a different pace.
The fade on Touch is loooong and begins its descent much earlier than on Greatest Hits, which maintains full volume until much closer to the conclusion of the song. The short edit can be closely recreated by using Greatest Hits (the volume has not yet decreased at the edit point) but not by using the version found on Touch (there is a dramatic plunge in volume if the same edit is attempted.) I've seen the louder fade referred to as the 12" version, though I don't own the actual 12" single. This could be the case as the 12" version of "Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)" was used on Greatest Hits. Hope this helps. :) |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 20 June 2011 at 8:39pm
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Do you know what the edit points are at the end? I got the edit at the beginning.
Thanks. -Jeff |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 21 June 2011 at 5:54am
To me, the last edit sounds like it's on "the rain..." at 3:38 (on the upbeat) and the pick up point would be 4:39. It sounds like a close approximation to me. Then at the beginning, cut from :19 to :34 to reduce the intro to 8 measures. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 21 June 2011 at 12:09pm
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Thanks Jody...... I will give it a try tonight.
-Jeff |
Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 21 June 2011 at 5:19pm
| That was a nice little edit for my 1983 playlist. Thanks all for the info. |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 21 June 2011 at 11:55pm
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Wow... been so long since I've heard this version, that edit at the beginning sounds abrupt to me.
I ended up with a file 3:49 in length; do I understand correctly from the above posts that, sourcing from a CD, this is about as close as we can get to the original 45 length? Thanks for another great catch! ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 29 August 2012 at 7:08pm
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Just reporting that the version on RCA's '80s-era Touch CD fades from 4:23 to 4:53, and the version on Arista's 1991 Greatest Hits CD fades from 4:49 to 5:03. Same mix, different length.
There are a bunch of compilations that all use the same analog transfer as GH:
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Posted By: DJghr1
Date Posted: 13 January 2013 at 6:21pm
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What are all the exact edit points of the promo 45 to
recreate from the LP version? I'm having a difficult time reproducing this from memory. Thanks! |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 14 January 2013 at 7:31am
| I distinctly remember that when this song came out, because 12" mixes and extended versions were all the rage, a display of the 7" at the checkout counter of my local Record World bragged that it was the "long version!", --which is kind of odd since it could easily have affected sales of the 12" single, which ran the same length. Not quite sure what the marketing plan was behind releasing a "long version" that was only like 10 seconds longer than the album version. |
Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 02 August 2018 at 8:13pm
I tired to recreate the 45 version using the Greatest Hits album. The ending to the 45 is different to the lp version. So it can't be recreated. I came close but the ending of Annie say Hey Yeah twice with an instrumental fade is not on the original lp. |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 02 August 2018 at 9:29pm
The longer 45 version is only on the US edition of Greatest Hits (14 tracks). The international editions (with 18 tracks) have the shorter album version instead. |
Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 03 August 2018 at 4:33pm
I meant the Ultimate Collection and not the Greatest Hits that I used. |
Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 03 August 2018 at 4:41pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhPnqHwb1Ek
The ending here has the hey yeah with instrumental fade but the fade happens way too early and you can barely hear the hey yeah which is heard in the promo 45 version below....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-K9-jipZG8 My recreation stops at the 3:31 point since I can't find the hey yeah part at the end on the album version with the fade. |
Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 11 January 2019 at 4:12pm
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Anybody know where I can find the true 5:04 LP version of the song? All of the
ones on their CD have been faded early. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 January 2019 at 5:12pm
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The LP version (length), as I understand, fades to the 4:53 mark. The 45 version (length) runs 5:07, while the longest CD versions tend to fade to about 5:04. The last few seconds of the 45 are at an extremely low volume, so I can see why the CDs are faded a bit sooner. I'm not aware of any discs that run 5:07. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 08 February 2019 at 8:33pm
Yes, the beginning edit is very abrupt. Did you ever get the full edit complete? |