Information Socitey "Running"
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Topic: Information Socitey "Running"
Posted By: chendagam
Subject: Information Socitey "Running"
Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 12:46pm
| Any information on the radio edit of this song? I managed to find a nice mp3 on napster about 5 years ago but am curious as to where it appeared. |
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Posted By: cmmmbase
Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 2:39pm
| how long is the radio edit? The only sub 5 minute version I've seen is on one of those Freestyle mix CDs.. |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 4:24pm
| The one I downloaded runs for 4:20. |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 26 January 2013 at 9:44pm
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Looks like my 4:20 version is too long according to the promo 45:
http://www.discogs.com/Information-Society-Running/release/3 249267 Six years later this thread is still unanswered :( |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 27 January 2013 at 12:48pm
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Chendagam, your long wait will soon be over. That area of my 1989 promo
CD singles are deeply buried right now (I file by year). I usually check that source first. We may have also gotten a promo 45 for it in to the station. I'll check that box for you also. Give me a week - I'll rent my "forklift" (for which my buddy Aaron K CAN visually attest is needed), and soon report back to you, I promise! |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 27 January 2013 at 7:51pm
| I would love to visit your warehouse and hang out with you and Aaron Jim! I'm not sure if a promo CD single has ever been released for this but I'm assuming it has since my downloaded version sounds pretty good. I also heard a short version on the radio back in the early '90s. I'm looking forward to your findings and thanks in advance! |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 28 January 2013 at 7:05am
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My sincere apologies, chandagam. My aging brain wrongly substituted the
also-using-one's-feet, aerobic-activity "Walking Away" for "Running." It turns out the song that you have been asking all these years was neither a Top 40 hit, a Hot 100 hit, or even a "Bubbling Under" hit. As such, although we likely did get in a 12" single in for it from Tommy Boy in 1985, based on my collecting criteria at the time, I didn't bother to even keep one. (Believe me, the "warehouse" is plenty full enough as it is.) I owe you one, buddy. I feel awful about getting your hopes up. |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 28 January 2013 at 3:59pm
| No biggie...I find it amazing that it never charted! It appears on so many freestyle comps and so many of my friends know the song. I do know the promo 45 does exist and I do have the promo 12" but there is no edit on the 12". I shall keep digging for a copy of that 45. Thanks for looking! |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 02 April 2014 at 10:08am
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Seriously! $700 for a 45? www.discogs.com/marketplace?
release_id=3249267&ev=rb |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 02 April 2014 at 11:42am
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What a great deal! You should totally buy it! ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 02 April 2014 at 6:31pm
| Unbelievable. I do not mind paying a little more but some of these vendors are unrealistic. I'll keep digging through those long lost 45 bins. |
Posted By: prisdeej
Date Posted: 21 June 2018 at 7:22am
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Does anyone own the promo 45? This edit has been on my
want list for some time. ------------- DJ L. |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 05 July 2018 at 6:36pm
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It's hard to believe nearly 12 years later this is still one of my top questions. I
revisited my file that I downloaded from the original Napster back in 2001. My edit's actual runtime is 4:18. The promo 45 listed on discogs (updated link: https://www.discogs.com/Information-Society- Running/release/3249267) states a runtime of 3:29 but I never noticed that this is incorrect. The record label states a runtime of 3:59. If you look further someone posted an update that there are label variations so it is a possibility that the "Instrumental Edit" runs 3:59 and the "Vocal Edit" runs 4:05 according to the label. So who knows maybe the version I found online all those years ago is in fact the correct version. I did hear an edit once on the radio a long time ago and it ended the same as the version that I have. If you would like a copy for review just PM me. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 July 2018 at 9:37am
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Unfortunately, I don't have it, but I'd bet that the 3:29 time on Discogs is a typo. It was initially entered that way 6 years ago without any explanation as to why. I'd be willing to bet that the person simply misread the time. In all four label scans, the only listed times are 3:59 and 4:05. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: TimNeely
Date Posted: 07 August 2021 at 1:18pm
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To follow up:
Someone finally posted what appears to be a rip from the original very rare 45 (link is valid as of August 7, 2021): https://youtu.be/IBK9DJPaV4Q The time listed on the label (both on 45cat and Discogs) is 3:59, but if the posted version is correct, it only plays for 3:29, which explains the listing on Discogs. I remember hearing "Running" on the radio in Philadelphia in 1986, two years before Information Society finally had a hit single. I don't remember the name of the station any more, but it played many single edits of dance-club hits. I think I tried in vain to find a 45 back in that era. It appears to be able to be re-created from the 7:41 Vocal Remix version that is fairly standard on Information Society CDs (it's on both their debut album and on the hits collection Strange Haircuts, Cardboard Guitars, and Computer Samples, Tommy Boy TBCD 1460, 2001), but the intro was trimmed to 5 seconds from the 35-second intro on the Vocal Remix. I need to study it more to find out where the beginning three-beat burst comes from, as I don't hear it in the intro. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 07 August 2021 at 2:28pm
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That's definitely a fake. No way that's a real vinyl dub. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 07 August 2021 at 2:51pm
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Funny that this topic re-surfaced as I've been trying to
replace my original promo 45 that was destroyed about 6 years ago. My old mp3 rip is long gone as well. I listened to the link TimNeely posted. Without media at my hands to compare, I'm not sure that is the authentic 45. I don't recall it sounding that way (or short). It's always easier to rely on a YouTube video that is either an original music video or you see someone actually playing the record. Either way it adds more to the mystery! ------------- Rick |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 07 August 2021 at 4:08pm
I only remember two Top 40 stations here in Philly from that time - 98.1 and 106.1. I honestly don't remember hearing this song on the radio at all, but I think 106 (which I think was still called Z106 at the time) would have been more likely to play it than 98. Only other station it might have been is 102.1 (Q102). I know they had been an AOR-type station previously, but at some point they went to Top 40/Dance, so I could see them playing it. However, I don't remember exactly when it was that they changed their format. ------------- Dan In Philly |
I remember hearing "Running" on the radio in Philadelphia in 1986, two years before Information
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 11 August 2021 at 5:53pm
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This topic has baffled me for 15 years now (probably more but
that's when I finally discovered this incredible forum). I downloaded a version that runs 4:20 from Napster (yes the original Napster from the early 2000s) and it has an identical ending to a version I heard on what must have been Q102 in Philly back in the early 90s. This copy sounds like it's from a digital source but I'm not pro. I'm sure someone like Aaron could verify that for me. According to the promo 45, the “vocal edit” runs 3:59 but if you look at the discog link (https://www.discogs.com/Information- Society-Running/release/3249267) you will notice in the images that someone crossed out the names of the versions. I am assuming the runtimes were reversed (i.e. the vocal edit is actually the instrumental’s length). Many times times are listed incorrectly on the labels (and listed shorter for that matter) so 4:05 is much closer to the file I downloaded. My theory is there must have been a limited run of promo CD singles issued by Tommy Boy back in 1988 when the album was released, but I could be wrong. I thought about uploading it to YouTube but worry about my account getting flagged. I want all of you to hear it and was thinking of putting it on my Google Drive and sharing the link here. I just was not sure if that is allowed on this forum. |
Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 11 August 2021 at 7:04pm
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I wish I still had the promo 45 to clear up the mystery.
If you want to send me the 4:20 version you have, I can take a listen. I'm not sure on Discogs why the runtime is listed as 3:29. I messaged the original contributor a few years ago to verify that the actual time is 3:29 but did not get a response. I don't recall the edit being that short. ------------- Rick |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 12 August 2021 at 6:34am
Yes, there are two sets of images, and technically, those belong to two different pressings and should be on two separate release pages. If you look carefully, you'll notice that the A side label that is not crossed out has matrix TB 877-7 A, a printed time of 3:59, and is called Vocal Edit. Then, if you look at the image that has the crossed out version, you'll see that the same label matrix and printed time (TB 877-7 A, 3:59) has the words "Instrumental Edit" crossed out and "Vocal" written in sharpie. The same holds true for the B side labels. Apparently the first pressing had the version names swapped on the labels by mistake, which was corrected for a second pressing. In all likelihood, it's the exact same audio on both pressings--just a correction for the record labels.
It's possible, but I'd say it's very unlikely. Surely we would've seen evidence of a promo CD single by now if one existed. Also, it appears there are no 1988-89 reissues of the single anywhere on any format (7", cassette, 12"). If Tommy Boy had planned to promote the song as another single off the self-titled album, surely there would've been other promo and retail formats pressed up that year. The promo CD single was a new format in 1988, and most stations were still playing everything from cart and/or vinyl back then. I can't see Tommy Boy releasing only a promo CD single and no other format whatsoever. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 06 April 2023 at 12:38am
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Someone recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAMav4tjoOs - posted a scratchy vinyl rip to YouTube .
[edit: never mind. It's fake. Just an early fade of the album version, a.k.a. Vocal Remix, with vinyl noise added.] |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 April 2023 at 8:28am
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Ain't no way that's legit. On the intro and fade, it sounds like someone is dropping the needle onto the record while the music is still playing. Listen carefully, and you'll hear that the vinyl noise is completely gone for about a second (music only) and then (THUMP) a needle hitting a blank groove. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 06 April 2023 at 1:39pm
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Ugh, I was fooled. In Adobe Audition, I took the very last vinyl noise sound (with no music) and pasted it before the intro, and lo and behold, the waveforms are identical, just reversed.
Also I see now there's some inconsistencies in the spectrogram, if you zoom in and look at the lowest frequencies across the whole song. The ends have definitely been processed and use different sources than the main part of the song. Sorry for the false alarm. Looking forward to hearing the real deal someday. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 06 April 2023 at 2:46pm
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Qobuz is of no help as they only have the 7:45 album
version and a slew of remixes. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 17 March 2025 at 1:13pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq0epDuvDpg - A more convincing edit has been posted to YouTube.
Is it the real deal? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 17 March 2025 at 2:50pm
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The YT video sounds like it's from vinyl. Whether or not it's the "real deal," I don't know. Was it the same YT user that posted the last version and claimed it was the original edit when it really wasn't? If so, his credibiity is still in question. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 17 March 2025 at 7:12pm
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I can tell you that with 100% certainty this edit is not
the edit I heard back on the radio in the early 90s due to the ending. That said, it is possible that the version I did hear was an edit created by the station especially since I heard it years after it was released. I just listened to my 4:20 edit and the ending is how I remember it (repeats a synth note about 5 or 6 times and fades out fast). |
Posted By: prisdeej
Date Posted: 17 March 2025 at 9:40pm
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For what it's worth, I remember hearing this track on WKTU when I was driving through NYC about 10 years ago. I don't remember how they edited it. ------------- DJ L. |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 25 March 2025 at 8:36pm
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Legit??! Just sold on discogs the other day for a wopping
$314 and then posted here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jSU3Sqt4Xw |