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jimct 
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 Topic: Melissa Manchester-"Don’t Cry Out Loud"Posted: 21 November 2007 at 8:12pm |
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I only own promo 45s for this song. For both its mono and stereo sides, however, it has a listed time of (3:36), but an actual time of (3:47). All database CDs state "minor tape splice glitch at :26". FYI, there was no such problem heard at the :26 mark, on either side of my promo 45.
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 22 November 2007 at 2:46am |
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That's because the glitch never existed on the single masters (I knew it didn't exist on the commercial 45, but you've now indicated it doesn't exist on the promo 45 either.) The glitch exists on the original LP master. And every CD has always used the album master instead of the single master (even though they're identical except for the glitch.)
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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 24 November 2007 at 11:40am |
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Given that the 45 and LP version of "Don't Cry Out Loud" are identical, I wonder why a tape splice glitch would even exist on the LP master in the first place?
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Posted: 24 November 2007 at 12:06pm |
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Is it a tape dropout at :26 in?
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aaronk
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Posted: 24 November 2007 at 3:21pm |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when an LP master is made (at least in the old days), don't the engineers essentially make a compilation of all the other "single" master tapes? That would mean the song would be transferred from it's original master tape to the LP master, which is probably where the glitch occured. |
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 24 November 2007 at 5:33pm |
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Exactly. At least that's my guess. There must have been dirt or a defect on the album master tape at 26 seconds into "DCOL".
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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 04 June 2009 at 12:43pm |
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To add to Jim’s initial comments regarding Melissa Manchester’s “Don’t Cry out Loud”, he informs me the actual commercial 45 run time is 3:47, not 3:36 as stated on the record label. The database currently notes only the DJ 45 times for this song, though it is identical to the commercial 45 timing info.
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 05 June 2009 at 7:21am |
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Does anyone know if an import CD (or for that matter, a more recent US CD) contains "Don't Cry Out Loud" WITHOUT the weird dropout glitch at 0:26? (This could easily be the case if anyone's used a single master - or maybe a foreign 2nd generation master).
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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 05 June 2009 at 10:34pm |
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This might be slightly off topic, but I've been wondering... If an LP master is made up of a compilation of "single" master tapes, then the finished LP master would be considered a second generation tape source, right? So does this mean then that the sound quality of an LP master is inherently inferior to a "single" master?
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Posted: 20 December 2014 at 3:04pm |
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From a 2005 post from EdisonLite from a different thread:
I struggled with this for a few minutes until I realized I had the "mono" button pushed on my receiver. It sounds perfectly normal when you sum left and right channels, but it's plain as day in headphones. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
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