Devone - Energy [1996]

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   So upon checking my resources this track appears lossy. The source I apparently have is from the CD promo. Track 2 is not lossy. But the radio edit is.

https://www.discogs.com/release/2140448-Devon%C3%A9-Energy

It clearly spek's under 20

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bynad7cs7zyjpkd4idozo/Devone-Energy-Radio-Edit-track-1-promo-cd-single-Aqua-Boogie-1548-.flac.png?rlkey=ttf7v1ewmgt57kab9tow5yhgs&e=1&st=fopryr5r&dl=0

I always thought the first few "lossy" mastered tracks occurred in 1997 with Whitney Houston ie . I Believe In You and Me and Step by Step.

Aaron would it be too much trouble if you have this cd promo to pull it and see if it actually is lossy. Promo only from that time period is also lossy and appears to be the same identical file.

If it is lossy I wonder if it was also mastered that way on the 12''

https://www.discogs.com/release/799918-Devon%C3%A9-Energy

If anyone happens to know a source for the lossless file kindly let me know. Thanks!

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PopArchivist Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 132	Post Options Post Reply Quote PopArchivist Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Devone - Energy [1996] Posted: 22 February 2026 at 7:25pm
	So upon checking my resources this track appears lossy. The source I apparently have is from the CD promo. Track 2 is not lossy. But the radio edit is. https://www.discogs.com/release/2140448-Devon%C3%A9-Energy It clearly spek's under 20 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bynad7cs7zyjpkd4idozo/Devone-Energy-Radio-Edit-track-1-promo-cd-single-Aqua-Boogie-1548-.flac.png?rlkey=ttf7v1ewmgt57kab9tow5yhgs&e=1&st=fopryr5r&dl=0 I always thought the first few "lossy" mastered tracks occurred in 1997 with Whitney Houston ie . I Believe In You and Me and Step by Step. Aaron would it be too much trouble if you have this cd promo to pull it and see if it actually is lossy. Promo only from that time period is also lossy and appears to be the same identical file. If it is lossy I wonder if it was also mastered that way on the 12'' https://www.discogs.com/release/799918-Devon%C3%A9-Energy If anyone happens to know a source for the lossless file kindly let me know. Thanks!
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 340	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2026 at 11:10pm
	That's how it is on the promo CD single. Technically, it's not "lossy." Mp3/lossy compression was not really a thing in 1995. It's true that the frequencies above 16kHz are rolled off, and I'm guessing that has to do with some sort of equipment that was used in mastering for this track, at least on the promo CD. It's very possible that a different CD source with the Radio Edit does not have this issue, but I don't have it on any other discs.
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eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 145	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Yesterday at 1:30am
	Could the radio edit be recreated from track 2?
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 340	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 hours 52 minutes ago at 2:04pm
	No, they have different intros and endings. The bulk of the song appears to be the same mix, though.
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eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 145	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 hours 12 minutes ago at 7:44pm
	The radio edit is available on RPM Top Hits disc T312, Track 13, but it may be from the same lossy promo CD single originally. I no longer have that Top Hits disc in my library. TM has the radio edit on several of their discs, Golddisc 2314N, HitDiscA 134A and HitDisc UK 141E, but it may be from the same promo CD single originally.
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	The version on TM Century's HitDisc 134A 1996-02-09, Promo Only Mainstream Radio 1996-02, and Mobile Beat Best Of Dance 14 are all volume-adjusted digital clones of the promo CD single. All have reduced high-frequency content over about 17 kHz, just like the promo CD single. It's not a hard cutoff like you'd see with an mp3 encoding. I don't have the Top Hits USA disc. The song appears on the disc that's literally one week before I began my weekly service in 1996.
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