Verifying true 45 edits for non-Top-40 classic roc

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   Subject: Verifying true 45 edits for non-Top-40 classic rock singles (deep cuts)
Hi everyone —
I’m hoping to tap into the forum’s collective knowledge as I start digging deeper into non-Top-40 singles by classic rock artists.
I’ve relied heavily on Top40MusicOnCD for years to identify true single versions, but as expected, once you move outside Billboard Top 40 territory, documentation gets thin very quickly.
At this stage, I’m trying to build a verified list first, before I begin tracking down audio or recreating edits.
What I’m specifically trying to confirm
For each song, I’m looking to determine:
Was the commercial stock 45 a true edit (not just an early fade)?
If edited, where the edits occur (verse removal, instrumental cut, alternate structure, etc.)
Whether the 45 used a unique mix or elements not found on the LP (alternate vocals, different balance, remix, mono-only, etc.)
My current workflow
I don’t rely on label run times — I’ve found them to be wildly inaccurate.
I compare structure against the LP (verse counts, instrumental lengths, fade timing).
If a correct 45 version isn’t documented or available digitally, my last resort has been purchasing the actual 45 and recreating it myself.
About 90% of edits are straightforward, but I’m especially cautious about the small percentage that may involve unique mixes or alternate sources.
Initial songs I’ve already flagged
These appear to be true edited singles, not simple fades:
Fountain of Sorrow – Jackson Browne
LP ~6:30 vs 45 ~4:37 (appears to include mid-song structural edits + earlier fade)
Turn to Stone – Joe Walsh
LP ~4:58 vs 45 ~3:30 (verse removal + instrumental tightening)
Revival – The Allman Brothers Band
LP ~4:02 vs 45 ~2:39 (heavily truncated for AM radio)
If anyone can confirm edit points, mix differences, or known documentation for these — or point me to existing forum threads I may have missed — it would be hugely appreciated.
Once I’ve built out a longer list, I’ll follow up with additional titles rather than flooding the forum all at once.
Thanks in advance — and thanks for keeping this level of detail alive.
— Don

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	Subject: Verifying true 45 edits for non-Top-40 classic rock singles (deep cuts) Hi everyone — I’m hoping to tap into the forum’s collective knowledge as I start digging deeper into non-Top-40 singles by classic rock artists. I’ve relied heavily on Top40MusicOnCD for years to identify true single versions, but as expected, once you move outside Billboard Top 40 territory, documentation gets thin very quickly. At this stage, I’m trying to build a verified list first, before I begin tracking down audio or recreating edits. What I’m specifically trying to confirm For each song, I’m looking to determine: Was the commercial stock 45 a true edit (not just an early fade)? If edited, where the edits occur (verse removal, instrumental cut, alternate structure, etc.) Whether the 45 used a unique mix or elements not found on the LP (alternate vocals, different balance, remix, mono-only, etc.) My current workflow I don’t rely on label run times — I’ve found them to be wildly inaccurate. I compare structure against the LP (verse counts, instrumental lengths, fade timing). If a correct 45 version isn’t documented or available digitally, my last resort has been purchasing the actual 45 and recreating it myself. About 90% of edits are straightforward, but I’m especially cautious about the small percentage that may involve unique mixes or alternate sources. Initial songs I’ve already flagged These appear to be true edited singles, not simple fades: Fountain of Sorrow – Jackson Browne LP ~6:30 vs 45 ~4:37 (appears to include mid-song structural edits + earlier fade) Turn to Stone – Joe Walsh LP ~4:58 vs 45 ~3:30 (verse removal + instrumental tightening) Revival – The Allman Brothers Band LP ~4:02 vs 45 ~2:39 (heavily truncated for AM radio) If anyone can confirm edit points, mix differences, or known documentation for these — or point me to existing forum threads I may have missed — it would be hugely appreciated. Once I’ve built out a longer list, I’ll follow up with additional titles rather than flooding the forum all at once. Thanks in advance — and thanks for keeping this level of detail alive. — Don