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Flaming Ember -Im Not My Brothers Keeper |
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davidclark
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Topic: Flaming Ember -Im Not My Brothers KeeperPosted: 02 November 2007 at 7:31am |
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What's the issue with the version on "Soul Hits Of The 70's Volume 3"? Is it an "improper edit of the LP version..."? Or another problem? I do not have the 45 with which to compare. thanks.
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Robert
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Posted: 02 November 2007 at 7:32pm |
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David,
I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but there's a completely different lyric line :41 into the song, ("I'll Stand Beside You & You'll Feel My Respect...") It's a different version than either the Rhino's 45 version or the HDH LP versions. Actual time on the 45 is 2:54. I'm wondering if it might be on an import somewhere, but I haven't seen it on any domestic CD. Maybe someone can help us. |
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Indy500
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Posted: 19 August 2012 at 12:01pm |
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The odd version, not the 45 version, is also on the import CD's Hot Wax Greatest Hits (Edsel) and Invictus Chartbusters (Castle). I hadn't noticed that before.
Another 45 version MIA |
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sriv94
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Posted: 20 August 2012 at 5:00am |
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Can the 45 be extracted from the LP?
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Indy500
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Posted: 20 August 2012 at 5:38pm |
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Here is the vinyl 45, I don't have the long or lp version to compare with, just the "not 45 or lp" version that's on every cd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgqpxRMbtAE Edited by Indy500 |
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edtop40
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Posted: 07 February 2013 at 5:18pm |
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does the full length cd version have the missing lyrics
somewhere in the song? |
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MMathews
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Posted: 07 February 2013 at 11:39pm |
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Short answer Ed: No. Those lyrics only occur on the mono
45. I compared all 3 versions: 1) Ed's mono 45 2) the stereo edit on Rhino CD 3) The stereo LP version You cannot edit the LP version to get the 45 version. The lyrics in 1st verse between :41 - :51, the first 2 lines, never occur in the LP version. As for all the rest of it, most of the vocals are in fact the same ... so the 3-minute edit on CD is "mostly" the 45 version... i'd say about 3/4 of it is the same as the 45. The only other unique parts are the last choruses. The 45 has an edit in the last chorus that removes the 2nd repeat. The LP version doesn't have that edit, so as a result fades too soon if you try to re-create the edit - so you can't make the 45 ending from the LP. So, it comes down to this: the "neither" version on Cd is mostly the same take as the 45, except for a total of 40 seconds. 10 secs in the first verse and 30 secs in the end chorus are unique to the 45. I also suspect that both the LP and the mono 45 were edited down from a much longer take that we have never heard. Come time to edit the 45, they decided to use different parts of it, or parts of another take. MM |
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KentT
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Posted: 19 February 2013 at 7:08pm |
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The mono 45 is unique. No CD has it. I hunted down a vinyl pressing of this 45 because of that.
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I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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edtop40
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Posted: 19 February 2013 at 7:18pm |
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mark made a re-creation from various sources and it sounds
superb!!! |
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Indy500
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Posted: 21 February 2013 at 8:50am |
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All digital sources or some needledrops?
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