Hot Chocolate-"So You Win Again"

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   Although this song is not in the database, it did peak at #31 Billboard, in 9/77. My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:55), but an actual time of (4:02). The version on my EMI Greatest Hits CD runs (4:27), so there's further investigation needed here. When I have further details, I will post them. 

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Hot Chocolate-"So You Win Again" Posted: 16 November 2007 at 11:03am
	Although this song is not in the database, it did peak at #31 Billboard, in 9/77. My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:55), but an actual time of (4:02). The version on my EMI Greatest Hits CD runs (4:27), so there's further investigation needed here. When I have further details, I will post them.

Oddbjorn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 November 2007 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oddbjorn Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 November 2007 at 1:36pm
	Hi Jim, For what it's worth; The original UK 45 (RAK 259) and LP vinyl version are both (4:27). I have some UK CD releases by Hot Chocolate, all ran about (4:27). So to my knowledge is the (4:02) version never been released on CD.
	OddNor

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 November 2007 at 1:46pm
	Great info, Bjorn! In my opinion, it is fascinating to learn about 45 version differences between the U.S. and the European releases of the same song.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 268	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 November 2007 at 1:50pm
	I second Jim's comment!

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 225	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 November 2009 at 12:00pm
	Jim (or anyone), do you know where the edit occurs in this song, or if the US 45 is simply a fade of the LP version?

Paul C Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul C Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 November 2009 at 1:39pm
	I just compared the two and did not detect a difference other than length.

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 225	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 November 2009 at 2:32pm
	So instead of 34 seconds of "dit-dit doo doo" vamping, it sounds like there's just 8 seconds of it, and I'm guessing the fade starts well before this "dit-dit doo doo" vamp on the US 45 (unless it's just a quick fade over the 8 seconds)?

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 August 2011 at 3:18pm
	my commercial 45 for the hot chocolate song "so you win again" issued as big tree 16096 states the run time on the label as 3:55 but actually runs 4:01 and is just a fade of the full length 4:32 cd/lp version.....if you fade for 0:09 from 3:52 to 4:01, you'll effectivly re-create the 45 version.....
	edtop40