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Kiefer2
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Posted: 26 July 2023 at 8:01am |
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Nightaire states that the mix he has doesn't sound like the "You Can Dance" version of "Holiday". Isn't the vinyl that you linked to merely the "You Can Dance" version on its own (unsegued with the other tracks)? |
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mjb50
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Posted: 26 July 2023 at 10:21am |
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Yes, you're right. It's the You Can Dance version with unspoiled intro & outro. Sorry.
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NightAire
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Posted: 26 July 2023 at 11:40am |
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As further evidence these mixes are different, I believe the label length is a typo, as the official videos on YouTube run the LP version at 7:58, not 6:58.
It's nice to have, it's an interesting variation on the original mix, I just hope to be able to figure out where it originated. :-) (I'm working a couple of options right now; if I get any answers, I'll post them here.) |
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mjb50
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Posted: 26 July 2023 at 2:46pm |
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I don't understand; the Madonna LP version runs 6:07, I thought. That's what I have, and a quick look on a file-sharing network shows that's roughly the typical album version length, not counting trailing silence. There are leaked stems floating around which run 7:41. Someone mixed them together and called it "Holiday (Unreleased Shep's Stems Mix)". That's all very recent though.
You might want to bookmark the Remix Service index and hotdiscomix :: Remix Service Index. The latter mentions that the Prime Cuts edit from 1986 claims to run 7:42. It's the only long, old version listed for that song. Update: OK, I've downloaded that Warner Bros. Remixes Bootleg CD and confirmed that the 6:58 version of Holiday on there is in fact the unsegued promo 12" version I described earlier, as released in 1987 to promote You Can Dance. It is not different from what is on You Can Dance other than the intro & outro being intact. Edited by mjb50 |
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NightAire
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Posted: 26 July 2023 at 4:11pm |
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OK, time for me to eat multiple servings of humble pie, and I completely misunderstood.. several things.
First: mjb50 is 100% correct. The version I was completely confused about was simply the unsegued, 1987 remix. I'm used to the version on the album itself, and the two don't exactly track. The original 1987 label is correct. (I had it in a "1984" video and nowhere did I have it marked "1987" which is my bad.) My source... well, sometimes, one never reveals their sources. But it's likely a superior disc dub. The Madonna video I thought was an "official" video from Sire / Warner Bros. / Madonna was, in fact, just a random dude posting on the internet. I don't know where he got HIS mix, but it's as official as your girlfriend's little brother typing away down in the basement. I have no good excuse, I only plead before the courts that I had massive insomnia last week and my brain is still not working well... (Here, BTW, is that video. Your guess is as good as mine... no, probably better. Madonna ( Holiday Spécial Extended Remix)) I'm ok if we want to delete the dust storm I kicked up with my message. I'm happy to go back and remove what I said, but don't want the replies left, making others look crazy... Edited by NightAire |
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Posted: 26 July 2023 at 6:31pm |
Is this actually available to download somewhere? |
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mjb50
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Posted: 27 July 2023 at 4:16am |
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@NightAire – No problem! We all have these brain farts from time to time, especially which such large libraries, as many of us here have.
As for it being a superior disc dub, I can say, based on looking at the spectrogram, that it's a homemade edit/reconstruction. The first 18.6 seconds and 12.7 seconds come from a different source than the rest of the track. There are also hints of a couple of not-quite-100% declicked ticks (inaudible but visible) in the fadeout. Looks to me like someone just replaced the mixed ends from You Can Dance with audio from a clean vinyl transfer. @aaronk – I used a file-sharing network. I try not to name or link non-reputable sources in public posts. PMs are fine. (Public mention of what might technically be piracy havens is inadvisable for obvious reasons, but the real risk is that this community has a variety of opinions about such things, and I don't want to antagonize anyone here or stir up a debate in the wrong area of the board.) Edited by mjb50 |
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