Heart - Crazy On You

crapfromthepast wrote: Summing up everything I know about the various versions: Beginning with the 1980 Epic release of Greatest Hits, record companies considered the full LP version to be 4:54, with the first 37 seconds being the last half of the excellent acoustic guitar track "Dreamboat Annie (Fantasy Child)". In reality, the true LP version runs about 4:17 (the tail of the fade seems to go on forever), and begins with a 16-beat acoustic strummed intro. The commercial 45 (printed 4:16) is the same as the true LP version. The database shows that the tail of the fade ends at 4:13. There's a printed 4:10 promo 45 version, which cuts out the 16-beat acoustic strummed intro and begins on the downbeat. The rest of the song is the same as the LP version. There's a printed 3:09 promo 45 version, which includes the 16-beat acoustic strummed intro, and fades early to 3:10. No edits, compared to the true LP version, just an early fade. There's a printed 2:58 promo 45 version, which also includes the 16-beat acoustic strummed intro, and fades early to 3:08. Also no edits, compared to the true LP version, just an early fade. For all practical purposes, the printed 2:58 promo 45 version is the same as the printed 3:09 promo 45 version. Discogs also shows a Canadian promo 45 with the 2:58 on both sides, but in mono on both sides. Yay, AM radio!

Loving this post, as like so many, I was never sure of the true dividing line between "Fantasy Child" and "Crazy on You". However, when I pulled up the versions I have in my library to start snipping and re-creating the various 45 versions as described here (as one does...), I went to Youtube to try to gauge the fade points. The first video I pulled up by searching "heart crazy on you promo 45" belongs to the AnotherProf account and immediately adds an outlier to the list above: a short promo version that starts on the downbeat without any of the strummed acoustic intro.

The description for the video states this was recorded from the M-7021-PC promo and has a printed intro time of ":13". This led me to go digging at Discogs and it appears that there are 4 different Mushroom promo 45s between the U.S. and Canada: certainly some of these will line up to what you reported above, Ron -- but what I noticed moreover was that the stated intro times are split between the different pressings: some state ":13" and some state ":20". I don't own any of these promo 45s but going off of what I'm seeing in your post vs. the AnotherProf video, I have a theory that perhaps the ones you reference as containing the strummed intro are the ":20" copies and ones labeled ":13" likely start on the downbeat:

Discogs Search

(1) M-7021-PC (Mono/Stereo 45 Promo U.S.) {Likely the record AnotherProf has posted above}
A: Short 2.58 (Mono) printed time with :13 intro
B: Long 4.10 (Stereo) printed time with :13 intro
Likely does not contain acoustic strummed intro

(2) M-FM-7021 (Stereo Only 45 Promo U.S.) {Likely the record Ron references above}
A: Long 4.10 (Stereo) printed time with :20 intro
B: Short 3.09 (Stereo) printed time with :20 intro
Likely contains 16-beat acoustic strummed intro

(3) M-7021-FM (Stereo Only 45 Promo U.S.) {These catalog nos. are driving me nuts}
A: Short 2.58 (Stereo) printed time with :13 intro
B: Long 4.10 (Stereo) printed time with :13 intro
Likely does not contain acoustic strummed intro - see this Youtube video but also ignore the claim that it mirrors the commercial copy which I think we have established contains the intro

(4) M-7021-PC (Canada Mono Only Promo) [Referenced by Ron above]
Both sides 2:58 listed time with :13 printed intro.
In my elaborate but unproven theory, these may actually feature a chopped intro like the other printed :13 promos


Anyway, just wanted to give you a headache this morning! TTYL!

Ugh. The endless variations are truly crazy-making.

I know we like to document everything meticulously, but I'm going to opt out of doing so for "Crazy On You".

I can summarize, though:

Starting with the LP version, mathematics tells us that there are exactly four permutations of: (1) deleting the 16-beat strummed intro vs. keeping the intro, and (2) fading early vs. keeping the full length.

We can create any of these four combinations as we see fit. I personally believe that the LP version was the hit, so I view all of these as non-hit promo versions.

Any mono mixes are likely fold-downs of the stereo mixes. (Can't confirm, though.)

My promo 45s are not currently pulled and in front of me, but I have dubs on my hard drive that are labeled well enough that I can tell you what's on each:

2:58 printed - full intro; has a 7.5 second acoustic guitar intro before drums and electric guitar begin; total intro time is 20 seconds; actual run time is 3:09; the label says the intro is :13 but it is actually :20

4:10 printed (flip side of 2:58 printed promo) - edited intro; has a 12.5 second intro and starts with the drums and electric guitar (no acoustic guitar opening); actual run time 4:06

3:09 printed - exactly the same version as found on the 2:58 printed promo but the actual run time is 3:10.3 (fade out is one second longer)

4:10 printed (flip side of 3:09 printed promo) - actual run time is 4:13 and has the full intro (acoustic guitar for 7.5 seconds before drums and electric guitars; total 20 second intro); same as commercial 45

Perhaps there is a short promo with an edited intro, but if so, it's not on any of the pressings I own.