Jaggerz - The Rapper

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   Ha! And, you thought this was an old thread in 2010 Tom...

I was digging through my old Collectables "Oldies.com" or "Nina's Discount Oldies" Maybe nowadays, "Gotham Distributing Corporation" CDs. Ugh!

On the disc originally called "Top of the Pop, The 70s Volume 2 Disc 4", (The name of the issue has changed a few times, but the track list stays the same), I found this echo version.

This came as a total shock to me as I don't recall ever hearing this version anywhere. Yeah, that's a recurring theme in my posts, I know!

Since this CD version from Collectables doesn't have any info on the source, except that this disc was made in 2004, I figured I'd come here and look. Sure enough, I think I found

the information I was looking for above. This version I found, to me doesn't sound muddy as described earlier. This is a stereo version as well timed at 2:39.

Perhaps if Ron has the time to look this over and make a crapfromthepast assessment? 

I'm still freaking out about the echoes though. That doesn't add much to the appeal of the song IMHO. I'm now going to have to go research the band and see if they were actually a "Band."

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AdvprosD Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 June 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote AdvprosD Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 August 2022 at 9:09am
	Ha! And, you thought this was an old thread in 2010 Tom... I was digging through my old Collectables "Oldies.com" or "Nina's Discount Oldies" Maybe nowadays, "Gotham Distributing Corporation" CDs. Ugh! On the disc originally called "Top of the Pop, The 70s Volume 2 Disc 4", (The name of the issue has changed a few times, but the track list stays the same), I found this echo version. This came as a total shock to me as I don't recall ever hearing this version anywhere. Yeah, that's a recurring theme in my posts, I know! Since this CD version from Collectables doesn't have any info on the source, except that this disc was made in 2004, I figured I'd come here and look. Sure enough, I think I found the information I was looking for above. This version I found, to me doesn't sound muddy as described earlier. This is a stereo version as well timed at 2:39. Perhaps if Ron has the time to look this over and make a crapfromthepast assessment? I'm still freaking out about the echoes though. That doesn't add much to the appeal of the song IMHO. I'm now going to have to go research the band and see if they were actually a "Band."
	<Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo!

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 August 2022 at 10:44am
	Mono 45 version with echo from 1:47 to 1:51 The mono 45 version with echo seems to have appeared first on Pair's Best Of Buddah (1988). The volume levels are pretty low here, and there's a slight EQ difference between left and right channels. The same analog transfer is used on: Pair's Best Of Bubblegum Music (1988) Special Music's Best Of The Bubblegum Years (1988) Priority's Seventies Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 8 Super Songs (1991) There's a different analog transfer on Essex's 3-CD The Buddah Box (1993). I prefer the sound on the Essex CD over the earlier releases - slightly better EQ, better volume levels, and more uniformity between left and right channels (the earlier discs have a slight EQ difference between channels). The same analog transfer is used on a budget Sony multi-artist compilation called Vintage Pop (2005). It's safe to say that any CDs that include this mono version can trace their masterings back to the Pair disc or the Essex box set. Mono 45 version without echo from 1:47 to 1:51 Doesn't appear to exist on CD. Stereo LP version The stereo version doesn't include the echo from 1:47 to 1:51. Dave: Can you check to see if your echo-from-1:47-to-1:51 version is stereo? I was under the impression that it didn't exist in stereo. The earliest CD I have with the stereo version is PolyTel Canada's 2-CD Ready To Rock (1988). It's a pretty rare disc, and it's from a higher-generation tape source than everything that followed. Avoid. The earliest (common) CD with the stereo LP version is Rhino's Billboard Top R&R Hits 1970 (1989). It sounds just fine, as you'd expect from this Rhino series. The same analog transfer is used on: Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 1 1970 (1989) - digitally identical Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 6 1970-1971 (1994) - digitally exactly 0.4 dB louder JCI's Only Dance 1970-1974 (1996) Time-Life's 2-CD Seventies Music Explosion One-Hit Wonders (2005) - digitally identical There's a new analog transfer on Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 1 (1990). The sound quality is basically the same as Billboard, but the track extends a wee bit farther (less than a second). The same analog transfer is used on: Rhino's promotional Have A Nice Day Sampler (1990, PRO2 90056) - digitally identical Rhino's cheapie Seventies Smash Hits Vol. 1 (1993) My recommendations For the mono 45 version with echo from 1:47 to 1:51, go with *Essex's 3-CD The Buddah Box* (1993). For the stereo LP version (which doesn't have the echo), go with Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 1 (1990)**.
	There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.

AdvprosD Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 June 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote AdvprosD Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 August 2022 at 10:59am
	I went back and checked with headphones. You are correct Ron, this version is also in mono.
	<Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo!

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 August 2022 at 11:06am
	Dave - Good to know. I should also point out that for the mono-with-echo versions, the sound on the mono 45 is significantly better than everything that's available on CD. There's a hi-hat playing eighth notes during the verses, but you wouldn't know it from the CD versions.
	There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.