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OK Paul thanks. I did know that the charts did run in the
Star but was not sure if that was your source. Seeing that
WIRE chart is really murky. It has been so long I am not
even sure I even seen it. It was 25 years ago at a Yahoo
Chat room or something. Not sure. I wish more would turn up
on WIRE. I am familiar with the practice of dayparting used
by many "conservative" radio owners in the 50s. Thanks for
your help here.
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Paul, not sure if you or Joel ever discussed this -

I always thought that BB started a Singles SALES chart in October 1984, but
browsing through old online Billboards, I see that as early as the mid 70s (See
page 30, 1/8/77 as an example) there was a long-term functioning chart listing
what appears to be U.S. retail single sales. Was this - like "Hot 100 Sales" - a
subset of the Hot 100 or something kind of unofficial?
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Originally posted by jebsib jebsib wrote:

Paul, not sure if you or Joel ever discussed this -

I always thought that BB started a Singles SALES chart in October 1984, but
browsing through old online Billboards, I see that as early as the mid 70s (See
page 30, 1/8/77 as an example) there was a long-term functioning chart listing
what appears to be U.S. retail single sales. Was this - like "Hot 100 Sales" - a
subset of the Hot 100 or something kind of unofficial?


I believe you're referring to the "Rack Singles Best Sellers" chart(s). I've been aware of it, even
before working at Record Research. Many years ago, I brought it up to Joel and he just kind of
brushed it off, so I never gave it much thought after that happened. I don't think we were ever
able to connect as an actual component chart to the Hot 100.
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Yes that's it - Thank you - It's odd as the chart ran for 3 or 4 years and seems
like it should have left more of a footprint. But as it stands, I agree - I don't
think it has any correlation to the published Hot 100...

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Originally posted by jebsib jebsib wrote:

Paul, not sure if you or Joel ever
discussed this -

I always thought that BB started a Singles SALES chart in
October 1984, but
browsing through old online Billboards, I see that as
early as the mid 70s (See
page 30, 1/8/77 as an example) there was a long-term
functioning chart listing
what appears to be U.S. retail single sales. Was this -
like "Hot 100 Sales" - a
subset of the Hot 100 or something kind of unofficial?


Looks like this debuted in the January 11, 1975 issue.
Bottom right of page 3:

RACK CHART DEBUTS
LOS ANGELES- Billboard bows a new rackjobber's best
seller's chart reflecting singles and LPs sales on page
6. The titles are compiled from data provided by such
major racks as Heilicher, ABC Records and Tape Sales and
Musical Isle.

But rackjobber sales... that's not retail sales to the
public, that's sales to record stores, isn't it?
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IIRC, rackjobber sales were to retail outlets, including record shops, department stores, car washes and
the like.
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Ah - so not even a complete sales picture in the slightest!
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Paul, in light of the Record Research warehouse clearance / massive sale, and this quote from the homepage :

"As the year wraps up, we will either shift remaining select print editions to an outside fulfillment center (which will
raise book prices) or pivot exclusively to electronic publishing. The Record Research warehouse is emptying out. There’s
no time to wait!"

Questions :

1. Does this mean there won't be any more forthcoming print versions of new or updated RRI books?

2. Or, are there still some currently in the pipeline?

3. Have yall considered a possible "print-on-demand" set-up, like what Amazon and others offer? That could be a good way
to go, too.

Cheers, all the best, and thanks...
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I will no longer be commenting/answering questions regarding Record Research.

Please refer to the official website for any future updates.

Thank you!
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