Seals And Crofts - Diamond Girl

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   Big hit from 1973.

There's a 3:53 version that seems to have first appeared on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 6 1973 (1990).  It's just an early fade of the LP version, faded from 3:35 to 3:53.

It's labeled as "edit of the LP version" in the database.  It probably should say "early fade of the LP version".  

It's safe to say that all the other 3:50-3:53 versions are also this early fade, and are likely based on the mastering for the Time-Life disc.  I can verify that the same analog transfer is used for:Time-Life's Superhits Vol. 13 1973 (1992) - fade shortened and left/right channels reversed.  I think all the tracks on this disc may have their left and right channels reversed.  Avoid this disc if possible.
Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 3 1973 (1992) - identical to Superhits in every way
Madacy's Rock On 1973 (1996) - digitally exactly 1.1 dB quieter
That said, can anyone send me a dub of the 45?  I'll be happy to post editing instructions once I reverse-engineer the 45.

Edited by crapfromthepast

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crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 207	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Seals And Crofts - Diamond Girl Posted: 31 July 2017 at 7:13pm
	Big hit from 1973. There's a 3:53 version that seems to have first appeared on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 6 1973 (1990). It's just an early fade of the LP version, faded from 3:35 to 3:53. It's labeled as "edit of the LP version" in the database. It probably should say "early fade of the LP version". It's safe to say that all the other 3:50-3:53 versions are also this early fade, and are likely based on the mastering for the Time-Life disc. I can verify that the same analog transfer is used for: Time-Life's Superhits Vol. 13 1973 (1992) - fade shortened and left/right channels reversed. I think all the tracks on this disc may have their left and right channels reversed. Avoid this disc if possible. Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 3 1973 (1992) - identical to Superhits in every way Madacy's Rock On 1973 (1996) - digitally exactly 1.1 dB quieter That said, can anyone send me a dub of the 45? I'll be happy to post editing instructions once I reverse-engineer the 45. Edited by crapfromthepast
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crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 207	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 August 2017 at 8:10pm
	Thanks to Gary for sending me a 45 dub! This one is pretty easy. You can recreate the 45 from the LP version or the early fade. I used the timings from the LP version on Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol. 14 Love And Tenderness (1997), but any of the others should work just fine. Segment 1 14 beats long If the very first sound is beat #1, then count and the edit is at beat #15 Extends from 0:00.0 to 0:06.6 of the LP version and the 45 edit Remove the 32 beats from 0:06.6 to 0:20.6. Segment 2 482 beats long Begins on the word "diamond" Ends on (an absent) downbeat, a half-beat after a crash cymbal Extends from 0:20.6 to 3:48.3 of the LP version Extends from 0:06.6 to 3:34.3 of the 45 edit Fade 32 beats long Begins on the downbeat following the descending portion Ends on (an absent) downbeat, a half-beat after a crash cymbal Extends from 3:34.8 to 3:48.3 of the LP version Extends from 3:20.8 to 3:34.3 of the 45 edit Your mixdown will run 3:34.3, with an edit at 0:06.6.
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garye Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 02 August 2017 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote garye Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 August 2017 at 6:09pm
	Glad I could help you on the Diamond Girl 45 dub! And your edit is right on the money! Could not tell the difference!

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	I had this edit long ago on a K-TEL Seals and Crofts compilation LP. I thought it was an in-house K-Tel edit (since they were known for editing song lengths to fit more songs in) but I guess it was the single edit. That Sounds of The Seventies CD it appears on was one of the handful that Bill Inglot and Ken Perry worked on so it's a little surprising that they did an early fade. If anything they were known for having longer fadeouts. It's a downright shame that Rhino never got to do a S&C compilation with Bill at the helm.
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