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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Hi folks.
Was a mono version of the 45 ever serviced to radio or released commercially? The piano in the right channel only to start the song just doesn't sound right. Thx! |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Hi, Doug. I agree; it doesn't sound right. Al wasn't aware that there was a cat napping in the Steinway, which made it sound more like a Baldwin. ;)
The Janus 266 DJ 45 was mono/stereo, and the piano is a bit more prominent on the mono side than when the stereo side is summed to mono. At least it is during the intro; I'll have to analyze it more thoroughly when I have a bit more time. The stock Janus 266 45 was stereo. |
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Smokin' TomGary ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 June 2011 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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On my stock Janus 266 45 the piano in the intro is in the left channel only.
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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My right hand never knows what my left hand is doing.
I took another listen to my copy (45 version on T-L's Sounds of the Seventies 1977, LP version from Year Of The Cat). The piano is in both channels on the 45, but very faint (and seems to be just a little more on the right, so it is possible T-L reverse-engineered it). But the LP version it very much favors the right and is just barely audible on the left, but still very faint until the drums and guitar strum kick in. (Insert Donald Trump/Ted Cruz joke here. :) ) |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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I'm surprised that there wasn't already a thread for this song. I did comparisons for this song about a year ago, and will try to reconstruct my thought process based on my sketchy notes.
I have the LP version on:
The oldest CD I have with the 45 edit is Warner Special Products' Highs Of The Seventies (1987), which sounds like it uses a very high-generation source tape. The same analog transfer (and an additional wonky EQ) is used on Razor & Tie's 2-CD Those Rocking '70s (1991). A MUCH better source for the 45 edit is Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 5 1977 (1990), which sounds quite nice. There are digital clones of this version on:
One more different analog transfer on Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 4 More Than A Feeling (2006). Finally, one CD that's edited like the 45, but uses the LP version's fade, running about 5:12 - Silver Eagle/Capitol's 3-CD Formula 45 (1988). Avoid, because this version wasn't released in 1977. For the 45 edit, go with Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 5 1977 (1990) or one of its digital clones. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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For the editors--are there ways to amplify the opening piano without amplifying any hiss that may be there to match the volume once the drums/guitar kicks in?
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Doug
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Doug, I have just sent you out a very clean dub from the mono side of my
1977 Janus promo 45. |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Thank you, Jim. Amazing how seamless the mono 45 makes the transition from the opening piano to the drum/guitar sound. That suggests to me that
the stereo 45 wasn't mixed well. |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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And on top of this, I just found that you can't extract the 45 from the LP. You can made the edits with a little difficulty, but there's a guitar part on the 45
version at about (1:20) that isn't in the LP version at the corresponding part (which would be at about (1:56)), or if it's there it's mixed very low and under the piano (which itself is mixed a little lower on the 45 with the guitar more prominent). If that makes any sense. Edited by sriv94 |
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Fastphilly ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 May 2016 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I for one prefer the mono version of "Year Of The Cat". I have a "Arista Flashback" reissue and the intro of the piano segment is geared to just one channel and is quite low in volume compared to the rest of the track. It doesn't blend right when the intro segues into the rest of the song.
A few years back I acquired a double A side promo 45 (both sides cut in mono for AM radio) and it's much more "leveled out" between the piano intro and the rest of the song. Even though it's a styrene copy (god I hate those lol), it survived from being cue burned thank goodness. Edited by Fastphilly |
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