One For The Mockingbird - Cutting Crew

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   I just found a copy of the 45 of "One For The Mockingbird" by Cutting Crew and the label states a running time of (3:58) but the actual running time is (4:05) and it is just an early fade of the LP version so there really is no 45 version, just a 45 length.

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Moderator Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 10 July 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moderator Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: One For The Mockingbird - Cutting Crew Posted: 30 March 2005 at 7:49pm
	I just found a copy of the 45 of "One For The Mockingbird" by Cutting Crew and the label states a running time of (3:58) but the actual running time is (4:05) and it is just an early fade of the LP version so there really is no 45 version, just a 45 length.
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abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 October 2008 at 9:37am
	This song have the U.S.-mix and U.K.-mix on the LP "Broadcast" each, as well as "(I Just) Died In Your Arms" . This U.S. commercial 45 has used the source from the "U.S. mix", and has the fadeout. (The actual running time (4:05), the listed time "3:58") Therefore, the coment of 3 CDs on the data base should be changed "U.S. LP Length" or "U.K. LP Length". The U.S.-mix has the voice "Oh" at :06 once. The U.K.-mix has the voice "Oh" of four times at :06 with the echo.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 111	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 October 2008 at 4:38pm
	Can anyone point out the start and end times of the fade to recreate the 4:05 run time?

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 October 2008 at 5:55pm
	A little confusion with this track, in addition to "(I Just) Died In Your Arms". At my college station, we got promo singles for "(I Just) Died In Yuor Arms", the single before this one, and "I've Been In Love Before", the single after this one, but no promo 45 for this one. This wasn't a big hit in the US by any means. I have what abagon refers to as the "UK mix" (4 Oh's at 0:06) on my CD copy of Broadcast (matrix number 86002 01# 03-14-94", runs 4:31 and runs into the next track, "I've Been In Love Before"). It runs at 144.3 BPM. I have what abagon refers to as the "US mix" (1 Oh at 0:06) on a 5-song Virgin promo sampler called Singles Scene (Virgin PR2018, 1987, runs 4:05). It's a little slower than the other mix, and runs 143.8 BPM. On the back cover of the CD, the song is titled simply "Mockingbird" and has a printed time of 4:06. This version begins its very long fade at a downbeat at 3:41 and has a roughly 64-beat sinusoidal fade that would end on a downbeat around 4:07, if the track lasted that long. I suspect another Shelly Yakus remix for the US 4:05 45, but I'll have to ask someone who actually has the 45: Is there a "Remixed by Shelly Yakus" credit on the label?

cmmmbase Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 04 May 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote cmmmbase Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 October 2008 at 6:29pm
	I can confirm that my stock copy of "One For The Mockingbird" does feature the credit "remixed by Shelly Yakus"... Edited by cmmmbase

Indy500 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Indy500 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 October 2008 at 8:43pm
	The import cd single also has the "extended remix" on it which runs 6:24 Edited by Indy500

abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 October 2008 at 12:58am
	Both the U.S. LP "Broadcast" and the commercial 45 have the description of the remixed by "Shelly Yakus". The fadeout starts at "3:53" about, and ends at "4:05" on the vinyl 45 with the "shouts of three times" at 4:05. ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- The commercial 45 label The U.S. LP "Broadcast" back cover. --abagon Edited by abagon

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 January 2009 at 10:18pm
	Pat, the database is kind of confusing on this entry. It currently says "U.S. LP mix." This is not entirely true, since some copies of the LP have the non-remixed version. It's also misleading, because the 45 and some copies of Broadcast contain the same mix, just differing in length. I'm not sure the best approach for labeling these. Any suggestions?

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 January 2009 at 9:26pm
	This is confusing because I believe the US vinyl LP had 1 "oh" at :06 but CFTP is saying he has a cd (not vinyl) copy of "Broadcast" with 4 "oh's" at :06. On my "Broadcast" cd there is 1 "oh" at :06 so it is the cd only that appears to have two different mixes. Anyone have a vinyl LP with 4 "oh's" at :06?

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 January 2009 at 11:31am
	Pat - Can you post the matrix number of your 1-"oh" CD? My 4-"oh" CD is 86002 01# 03-14-94.