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    Posted: 04 April 2013 at 12:23pm
Although this wasn't a Top 40 hit, peaking at #49 in 1973,
this is one of my favorite songs from the early seventies.
The single differs significantly from the LP version, and
is far superior in my opinion. To my knowledge the single
version has never been released on CD either domestically
or as an import. I thought I would reach out to the forum
to see if anyone has ever located this on CD, or if anyone
has worked some audio magic to clean up a good 45 pressing.   
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(sorry - double post)

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Originally posted by Yah Shure Yah Shure wrote:

(Ringmaster, check your PM in-box.)

No CD issue that I'm aware of, although I've had it in that form since 1996 (on the third CD-R I ever burned.) ;)

A&M didn't help clarify matters when they pulled the inferior album version from the Best Of Stealers Wheel LP and issued it as a single in 1978, titled "Everything Will Turn Out Fine" (A&M 2075) credited to "Gerry Rafferty & Joe Egan."

The good news about the hit version on A&M 1450 is that the mono/stereo DJ 45 was a vinyl Monarch pressing (stock copies were all mono.)

I've often wondered if Gerry Rafferty wasn't happy with Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller's production on the 1973 single version. How else to explain its thus-far permanent disappearance in favor of the Ferguslie Park re-recording the following year?
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Yes, the stereo single version is a great record.

It received airplay in my market (Albany/Schenectady/Troy), and was played on the TM 'Stereo Rock' syndicated format in many markets.

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Kind of an odd stereo mix on this song. It sounds like
most of the song is in mono, only the handclaps (which are
panned all the way to one side) and some drums (panned all
the way to the other) are stereo, everything else is
centered.
Anyone know the history on this song? It almost sounds
like what Roulette did with "Draggin' The Line"...only the
parts that were added to the orignal recording were mixed
in stereo. Could this have been an earlier recording that
was "revived" after the success of "Stuck In The
Middle...". and juiced up a bit?


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To Hykker,

May I kindly beg to differ? I think the stereo placement is well-panned. Here is what I hear:

Handclaps hard left.

Conga hard right.

Low level acoustic guitar soft left.

High level acoustic guitar soft right.

Organ soft right.

Lead electric guitar (bridge) hard right.

Background "ooh ahh" vox mixed stereo with stereo reverb.

Bass, Trap drum kit, Lead & harmony vox, Lead electric (solo) guitar, Piano (all) up the middle.

That's a very competent stereo mix that the USA public never got to buy at any time!

Andy

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Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Could this have been an earlier recording that was "revived" after the success of "Stuck In The Middle..." and juiced up a bit?


I think it was the case of a record company not hearing a second single from the debut LP and wanting to put something out that would extend the shelf lives of both the band at radio and the album at retail. That the follow-up single wasn't even on the LP was of secondary importance.

"Everyone's Agreed" would've been a dynamite opener to side two, had A&M gone ahead and reconfigured the LP, but would it have worked within the album's context? Did the band have veto power? Who knows?

There was also the matter of three-fifths of the band departing in the wake of the debut LP and second single. If there had been pressure from A&M to follow "Stuck" quickly with a radio-friendly soundalike, the "clean slate" opportunity for Rafferty and Egan to re-cut "Agreed" as a duo for Ferguslie Park minus the earlier "Stuck"-soundalike/full-band lineup baggage, may have been too good to pass up. In the process, A&M would have the song to include on the sophomore album, yet with all tracks representing the retooled Stealers Wheel lineup.

Is there a possibility that the single version master tape no longer exists?





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A&M did a rather lazy Best Of Compilation and even re-released as a single the non hit version of "Everyone's Agreed" as "Gerry Rafferty and Joe Egan, which may be the reason the single mix wasn't included on that comp, they were working the other version as a single.

My guess is that the deal was a lease which is now expired. You can only find Stuck in the Middle with You on Pure 70's and the soundtrack to Reservoir Dogs.

As far as I can tell they never did a 20th Century collection, but if they got down to Keith Hampshire on that series there has to be a reason that they didn't do Stealers Wheel. Unless I'm wrong, I've just never seen one.

If Universal still has the rights, this might be the time for Universal to put something together that includes all the Stealers Wheel Top 40 (or near Top 40) songs as well as the Gerry Rafferty Hits. I believe the merger with EMI gives them both Stealers Wheel and Gerry Rafferty which could be part of their Icon series.

If somebody has the time to research it be worth a couple of strings here on new compilations from artists who now have more of their masters merged.

But its a bit tough to follow. EMI went to Universal. Universal keeps the Beatles but spins off what they had under "Parlophone" which includes Pink Floyd. So Pink Floyd goes to Warner Brothers, Chrysalis goes to Warner Brothers, but Sanctuary (Pye) goes to BMG but that's not the Sony/BMG.

So if anybody has information as to what artists now belong where, that would be a great string, along with new easy compilation with merged catalogs.

Anyway on this particular song they probably have it but never got around to issuing it or waited too long and the lease is up.


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Originally posted by Bill Cahill Bill Cahill wrote:

As far as I can tell they never did a 20th Century collection, but if they got down to Keith Hampshire on that series


I've always been under the impression that both the Keith Hampshire and Valdy 20th Century collections were done expressly for the Canadian market, hence the maple leaf insignias on their respective covers. (Come to think of it, the Hampshire collection doesn't include yet another elusive A&M single-only track: 1974's "Hallelujah Freedom" (A&M 381) which wasn't issued stateside.)

As for Stealers Wheel, has anybody checked the 20th Century Scottish editions?   ;)
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Of course two completely different recordings, it should
be noted, exist, one for the album and one for the
single.
You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney.
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