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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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Searching for the song "Talk Talk" by the band Talk Talk
is difficult, to put it mildly. (486 results at present...) Simple questions: (1) Are the 45 and LP versions the same? (2) Do both begin with the 12-beat synth drum intro? (3) Do the versions on CD that omit the 12-beat synth drum intro originate with the Natural History best-of CD from 1990? If I had to guess, I'd guess yes, yes, yes. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Ron, I don't happen to own their 1982 LP, "The Party's Over", but I just
pulled out my "Talk Talk" promo 45 for you. The same stereo, listed (3:19), actual (3:21) version appears on both sides (deadwax: "B-8136-S- 45-500891-P-1") (or 2, for the flip side.) My 45 does includes the 12- beat synth drum intro, and, to my ears at least, sounds identical to the Youtube vid of the song currently loaded by "emimusic", as a reference point for you. Hoping this info was of at least some help to you..... Edited by jimct |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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That helps quite a bit - thanks!
That's inching closer to my hunch that both the LP and 45 have the 12-beat intro, and that the 1990 GH CD was the first place that the intro was omitted. |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Ron,
I used to have the parent LP and it also had the 12 beat intro. As much as memory serves I think 45 and LP were the same, mix and all. Only the import 12" was a totally different mix. MM |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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Thanks, Mark!
So we can conclude that the Natural History CD from 1990 was (likely) the first place that the 12-beat synth drum intro was omitted. |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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There's one other possibility, but I don't have the physical media to prove it.
Discography lists three shorter discs, at least if you believe the labels: U.S. Acetate, 7", 45 RPM The only U.S. release that claims to be 2:58 in length, although there's no pic of the label to prove it. Canada Vinyl, 7", 45 RPM A Canadian single which very clearly claims to be 2:58. U.K. Vinyl, 12", Single, 45 RPM This British release may be completely unrelated, as it is labeled "version" and is only labeled to run 2:35! Could these be where the intros without the 12-beat synth drum section originated? |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 123 |
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Gene, the US acetate listing on Discogs was copied from the U.K. 7"
page, so the time of 2:58 was carried over from that data. Without a photo, there's no telling if that time is also on the acetate or if the user who created the page simply forgot to remove the run time before submitting it. |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Good point, Aaron.
Just found something interesting in this Wikipedia article: "it topped at no. 52 in the United Kingdom upon initial release. A remix of the song was released later in the same year where it peaked at no. 23 in the UK and number 75 in the United States." It then goes on to list the original 7" as 2:58 and the "remix" as 3:23. Doesn't that sound an awful lot like the original UK mix was 2:58 and the U.S. single remix (which added the drum beats?) was 3:23? |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 123 |
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It's very difficult to research Talk Talk "Talk Talk" online and get helpful
search results. I've been unsuccessful in finding a dub of the 2:58 version. |
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