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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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Pat, what's the difference between the LP and 45 versions of the Rolling Stones "Brown Sugar"?
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Well, the 45 is mono, for one thing. But those idiots at ABCKO did not use the mono mix for the CD singles box.
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Grant ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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So, for practical purposes, the stereo mix IS the hit, and is the same as the LP. Edited by Grant |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Nope. From what I've read on the Steve Hoffman board, it's the stereo mix that is the rare one. Ed Bishop says he's yet to come across a stereo Brown Sugar from 1971. And my copy is mono. What is the catalog number on your single, Grant? |
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Grant ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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OK...I've got 45s all over the place. I'll be back... BTW, funny thing about Ed, he always seems to have the opposite of what I have. Maybe it's an east coast-west coast thing. I'm out west, he's on the east coast. |
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Grant ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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OK I found it. Seems my copy IS mono. But, I do remember how I got it. I looked for it in a Tucson record store, and when I was there, I saw tons of stereo copies. I specifically looked for a mono copy because I had read where Mick mixed down the chorus for radio. I recall seeing the copy I now have and a very beat-up 45 that were not marked stereo. But, the thing is, most copies were stereo, and I call the mono mix rare because it is not on CD.
As for the mix itself, I found NO difference between the stereo and mono. So, I still maintain that if yu have the stereo mix, you have the hit version. The catalog number is: RS-19100 The numbers below the logo is: RS-21843 SP The inner groove says: 21843-3 "Rolling Stones Records" The time is 3:50 the B side is "Bitch". This 45 is distributed by Atlantic Records. It is pressed on thin vinyl. Hope this helps. Edited by Grant |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Thanks, Grant.
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Gary Mack ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I'm with Ed on this, too. I was a DJ when Brown Sugar came out and it was my job to make sure all 45s we played were clean copies. The first promo 45 was mono as were all the stock 45s in the 70's that I handled. I've never seen a stereo 45 of that song.
Grant says his deadwax reads 21843-3 and mine reads 21843-5, indicating my 45 is a later pressing. So it would seem that from promo release up through at least the fifth pressing, all would have been mono. If there's a stereo issue, it must have come out much later. GM |
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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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back to Pat, since the database indicates "LP version" for all stereo occurrences, then what is the difference between that and the mono 45, or is it just the mix (which I don't believe warrants the "LP version" tag according to our rules...)?
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Can't speak for the differences, but Pat did originally have "LP mix" next to "Brown Sugar" in his database (at least going back to the days of his T40MOCD 1955-1981 paperback).
I just aged myself. :-) Edited by sriv94 |
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