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"Strung Out" - Steve Perry |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Pat:
I have a couple of things to point out regarding Steve Perry's "Strung Out"... First, all CD appearances of the song in the 10th edition should contain the comment: (LP version). The commercial 45 runs 3:40 and is an edit of the LP version. The 45 does not contain the opening countoff found on the LP version and instead begins at the :04 mark of the LP version when the electric guitar starts playing. Other than that, the two versions are exactly the same. This is a very easy edit for anyone interested in making their own homemade 45 version from CD. Second, the 10th edition shows the run time for "Strung Out" on the Street Talk CD to be 3:51. I have a copy of this CD on Columbia 67849 and the correct run time is 3:44 just like on the Greatest Hits + Five Unreleased disc (Columbia 69686). Edited by Todd Ireland |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Todd: My promo 45 for this has (Single Version) notated on one side, with a listed and actual time of (3:40), similar to the commercial 45. The other side has (Album Version) notated, with a listed and actual time of (3:51), which time agrees with the Columbia 39344 CD pressing of "Street Talk", and not the one that you own, just FYI.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Thanks for the heads up, Jim. For CD appearances where "Strung Out" runs 3:44, I'm now wondering if it would be more accurate to revise the accompanying comments as follows: (45 version, but includes an opening countoff not on the 45)? Right now, the database shows the 3:44 version as being (neither the 45 or LP version) which might misguide readers into thinking this is a different edit or version altogether.
Anyone else have thoughts on this? Edited by Todd Ireland |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 120 |
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I'm confused on this one. Am I reading something wrong? The 45 and LP are the same, except that the LP has the countoff and the 45 does not. Correct? Wouldn't that make the version with the countoff the LP version?
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Aaron, I don't mean to speak for Todd here, but the way I understood his explanation was this: It seems that the initial LP release on CD (Columbia 39344) contains, predictably, the (3:51) album version. But a subsequent CD release of this LP (Columbia 67849) seems to have substituted the (3:40) "single version" of "Strung Out" for the album version, with one caveat: This release features a not-found-on-the-45, previously unavailable :04 "single version countoff." (3:40) single version, plus the (:04) countoff, equals (3:44), the length found on Todd's CD.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Jim, you're right on the money and I thank you for providing a superior explanation. Sorry for the lack of clarification and confusion in my previous comments, Aaron.
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 120 |
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Ah, thanks for the clarification. I get it!
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Fetta ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Question about this track.
I just tried to create the 45 version of "Strung Out" by cutting off the countoff intro from the "Playlist: Very Best Of Steve Perry" CD. My 45 dub seems to have a slight fade in or something else (I csn't place my finger on it) that is not matching the edit I've made by just cutting off the countoff intro. It is very very slight, but it does seem a little different to me. I can forward on my 45 dub if anyone is interested in comparing. Thanks. -Jeff Edited by Fetta |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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fetta, just sent you the track thru pando...
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Update on the single version:
I have the short version with the countdown at the beginning. I also have the original version from the first CD copy of "Street Talk." The short version with countdown is HORRIBLY clipped in my copy. I don't know for sure if it's from a "remastered" version of Street Talk, but it's really shameful what they did to the dynamics. The good news is the edits to the LP version to match the "edit with countdown" seem to be pretty easy, and all in the beginning of the song. To my ears in A/B comparison, the mixes seem to be identical 100% of the way through. Assuming you leave the countdown on (at least until you get it edited), here are the edit points for the full LP version: Take out 0:07 to 0:11, editing from the guitar strum to the cymbal crash, shortening the nearly solo guitar riff in half. From what you have left: Take out 0:11 to 0:14, editing right on the snare hits, taking out two bars, again shortening the riff to about half original length. To make the original single edit, clip off the countdown at the beginning... and based on what Jeff said above, maybe fade in the first 250 ms? I don't have the single to compare. I hope this helps somebody! I edited my original "Street Talk" version to match rather than use my heavily clipped pre-edited version. |
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