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    Posted: 20 hours 15 minutes ago at 5:17pm
I'm trying to confirm the length of the song "Crazy On You" by Heart from the original album Dreamboat Annie.

I don't have the LP (or the 45), but pictures of the LP on ebay show the length to be 3:54 on the LP label.  Discogs also says the time is 3:54.  The database indicates the length to be around 4:54.  Most CD versions of the song are around 4:54.  Maybe a misprint on the LP(?)

I have the song on two CDs: Heart's Greatest Hits (AFZ 119) where the song is 4:55, and on Dreamboat Annie (DCC 1058) where the song is 4:20. Someone on another forum claimed that 4:20 is the original length of the song from the album, but that doesn't match the time printed on the LP label.

The time entry on the database listed for the DCC version of Dreamboat Annie is 4:53, not 4:20. The 4:20 time also doesn't exactly match the 4:16 time shown on the 45 label, or Ron's Hot 100 time for the stock 45 (4:14).

Anyhoo, If anyone can confirm the actual length of the original album version of "Crazy On You" it would be greatly appreciated.  And I think the database entry for the DCC version of the song should be changed from 4:54 to 4:20.  At this point, I'm not sure the 4:20 version matches the 45 version, the original LP version or some unique version for the DCC.  

I would be happy to send anyone the DCC version of this song if needed.  Thanks in advance.

Brad


Edited by bjhami75 - 17 hours 57 minutes ago at 7:35pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 30 minutes ago at 7:02pm
Here's a video of the song playing from the vinyl LP. It runs 4:46.

https://youtu.be/mW145Rqge5k?feature=shared
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Thanks John, greatly appreciated.  That closely matches the version on the Greatest Hits CD that I have.  

The major difference between this version and the 4:20 version on the DCC CD is the intro.  

I'm guessing some people consider all or part of the intro to be part of the previous song, "Dreamboat Annie (Fantasy Child)", and others consider it part of "Crazy On You". The times on the LP Label (and Discogs) seem to indicate it's part of "Dreamboat Annie (Fantasy Child)" but the numbers still don't add up (at least in my simple mind).  I'm wondering which way the artists wanted it. (I know, I should probably just let it go)

I ran into this on other CDs/Albums.  For example, I have two versions of Pink Floyd's The Wall on CD that have different index points for various songs.  

Thanks,

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 hours 32 minutes ago at 11:00pm
If the vinyl LP version runs 4:46, why do CDs in the database run anywhere from 4:49 to 4:54?

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So, I've done a little more research.  Someone on another forum wrote this:

"The Mushrom 45 version of "Crazy On You" is 4:16 - just as it is on the DCC and the original Mushroom album (give or take a second or two). The AF (and the original Sony/Legacy release the AF is based on) as well as the 1980 Greatest Hits/Live Epic Records release actually have added the second half - about 40 seconds - of the previous track, "Dreamboat Annie (Fantasy Child)" to this song. Capitol did the same thing with their CD issue of DA in '86 - splitting "Dreamboat Annie (Fantasy Child)" in half and indexing its second half to be part of the "Crazy On You" intro. When Steve did the DCC of DA, he indexed it back to the way it was banded on the original Mushroom LP.

I figure that the only reason Capitol re-indexed the two tracks was because Epic set the precedent back in 1980. And now everyone thinks that the second half of "Dreamboat Annie (Fantasy Child)" is part of "Crazy On You"."

A friend of mine has an early version of the LP and this morning we played the album and, using the track bands, confirmed that the guitar "intro" that is often associated with "Crazy on You" is actually part of "Dreamboat Annie (Fantasy Child)" on the original LP.

I believe this means that the original  LP version of "Crazy on You" is between 3:54 and 4:20; not 4:46-4:54.  Since I'm still a newbie to this forum, I'm not sure what happens next. I assume someone else needs to confirm this(?)

Brad


Edited by bjhami75 - 4 hours 27 minutes ago at 9:05am
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Thanks for confirming, Brad. I don't have an original LP pressing, but I assume they are all the same. I'll work on updating the database.
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