PSYCHEDELIC FURS - "Heartbreak Beat"

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   PSYCHEDELIC FURS - "Heartbreak Beat"

The actual commercial 45 running time is (4:06), the listed time is "4:03" on the record label. (Columbia 38-06420) 

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abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: PSYCHEDELIC FURS - "Heartbreak Beat" Posted: 24 September 2008 at 8:46am
	PSYCHEDELIC FURS - "Heartbreak Beat" The actual commercial 45 running time is (4:06), the listed time is "4:03" on the record label. (Columbia 38-06420)

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 March 2009 at 6:29pm
	my commercial 45 runs 4:04...
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abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 March 2009 at 7:32am
	Thank you for the new run time info, ed. Sometimes there are discrepancies between my run time info and others. Then we may be able to encounter any new findings for different pressings. I have learned here that there are two or more pressings of U.S commercial 45s. So I have clocked some 45s of multiple possessions with the same turn table. For example, "KENNY LOGGINS-Danger Zone 3:32 & 3:33", "SHEENA EASTON-Modern Girl 3:31 & 3:32", "OUTLAWS-(Ghost) Riders In The Sky 3:36 & 3:37", "TOTO-I Won't Hold You Back 4:34 & 4:35" etc. --abagon

Ringmaster_D Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 08 July 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ringmaster_D Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 April 2011 at 1:51pm
	Are there mix differences between the 45 and LP? The db indicates LP and 45 "versions." Any info would be appreciated!

promojunkie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 08 August 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote promojunkie Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 July 2021 at 7:21am
	bumping this one back up. There are two distinct 45 mixes. I think one is a US edit of the LP and the other is an an edit of the New York Mix. Both are about the same duration. It's much more pumped and jazzed up with horns etc. This is the version I heard most in the NY area back in the 80's. It's also the version used in the video. The question I have is there a way to find the New York Mix edit on cd? The quality of the pressing on vinyl is rather awful, at least the import 12"record I purchased. Anyone able to shed some light on this? Edited by promojunkie
	Rick

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 265	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 July 2021 at 8:16am
	Are you saying that some 45s are pressed with a remix while others are not? Is there any way to distinguish between the pressings?
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

promojunkie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 08 August 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote promojunkie Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 July 2021 at 8:46am
	To my knowledge, the New York Mix and single version are found on non US 12" records. The stock US 45 is an edited LP version. Both single mixes are listed as 4:03 on most vinyl pressings US or abroad (various 45 and 12" pressings) (some list as 3:58) and are listed as being remixed by Steve Thompson & Michael Barbiero. However, there are definitely two different mixes. I was only familiar with the jazzier/pumped up version from the official video and NY radio. You can hear the difference especially in the first 20 seconds of each. I don't see any evidence on discogs of another US promo 45 with this mix nor have I found it on any compilation discs. I own the US stock 45 which is the lp edit. I can't be certain which mix is on the promo 45 because I don't own it and they are about the same length. I'm curious which version other radio markets play during '86-87. Edited by promojunkie
	Rick

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 265	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 July 2021 at 9:50am
	When time permits, I'll look through my promo 45s to see if there's a second promo with the remix. On Discogs, the promo and stock 45s both have a label matrix of ZSS 175492, which would indicate the mixes on them are the same. These 45s also say "Additional production and mixed [sic] by Steve Thompson & Michael Barbiero." Although it doesn't say "remixed," the "additional production" note makes me wonder what "additional" stuff was done to it. Based on what's been reported here, the answer is that it's only editing of the LP mix/version. To confuse matters even more, both the New York Mix on the US & UK 12" and the "Single Mix" on the UK 12" have the same credit as the US 45: "(Additional production and) mixed by Steve Thompson & Michael Barbiero." I do have the US promo 12", so again, when time permits, I can play the "Single Version" on Side B to see if it's any different from the 45.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

mjb50 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 April 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 52	Post Options Post Reply Quote mjb50 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 July 2021 at 10:05pm
	The US promo 7" on Discogs has a note saying there are different mixes on each side. I, too, have the US promo 12", but I don't have any 7" to compare it to. Edited by mjb50

AndrewChouffi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewChouffi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 July 2021 at 7:49am
	Sadly, my US promo 45 has the same LP edit version on both sides, irrespective of what the Discogs entry claims. Matrix numbers are also the same. Andy