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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 128 |
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Although not mentioned in the database, there is a short promo edit of "Lady" by Styx. The actual run time is 2:32. Perhaps someone with the promo 45 can post the printed time for Pat's inclusion in the database.
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thanks, Aaron. This is the first info I've ever heard about the existence a
(2:32) short promo 45 for "Lady". However, my mono/stereo promo 45 copy, confirmed as Wooden Nickel 10102, is different. My promo copy includes a listed and actual length of (2:58) for both sides. Mono side deadwax: handwritten "WA10102C", followed by a machine-stamped "TML-M", followed by a handwritten "3S". Stereo side deadwax: handwritten "WB10102A 3S', followed by a faint, machine-stamped "TML- M". I immediately started sniffing around, to see if I could find where Aaron spotted his short promo version info. I think I just found it. There's both a listing and scan for it on 45cat. Listed time both sides is (2:33). But this promo does not have the "hit" stock #, which I've already listed above. This one says Wooden Nickel 0116. For those not familiar, "Lady" was first released on 45 in 1973, as Wooden Nickel 0116. It got a small amount of Chicago-area airplay then, but quickly dropped off radio's radar. These findings lead me to conclude that the 1973 short promo 45 is from an "earlier, non-hit 45 release" of the song, and shouldn't actually be added to Pat's db. For anyone wondering how "Lady" became a big "from the vaults" hit in 1975: The night DJ on powerhouse Chicago Top 40 station WLS, Dick Biondi, loved the song, thought it should've been a smash, and started playing it every single night, at exactly 8PM. It started getting huge reaction from his audience, leading to demand for it at retail, prompting its 45 re-release. This was both good and bad news for Wooden Nickel, however. Yes, the label scored their only-ever Top 10 hit. But Styx had already left the label, signing with A&M, leaving Wooden Nickel/RCA to re-issue their old 1972-74 tracks. It was A&M that got the huge Styx boost from the belated success of "Lady", serving as a major "launching pad" for the band. They were now a "known" act, instead of the still- unknowns they were when they'd signed with A&M the year before. Edited by jimct |
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MPH711 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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That would be a great story, but Dick Biondi was not on Chicago radio
at that time. It is true that it became a hit from WLS playing the song. I'm not sure that they played it each night at 8pm but they did create a hit by playing it when no one else was at the time. It had gotten nice exposure on FM radio in Chicago on WBBM-FM when it was first released off the Styx 2 album. 'BBM-FM also played their earlier single Best Thing prior to Lady. |
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MPH711 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I have the stock copy of the original release 73-0116. The dead wax
has hand written BFKS 9123. There is a very small machine stamp that says Sterling. The label has a time of 2:33. I can not time it out because of a nasty warp at the beginning of the song but when I match up the rest of the song with the full version, the edit is near the the end of the song when they are in full swing. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 128 |
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Yes, the edit cuts out 2:19 to 2:44 of the full version, with the edit on the beat where they sing "sparkling" in both places. (The edit leaves the "s" of the first "sparkling" and picks up with the "parkling" of the second instance.) I believe the short version also runs slightly faster in speed to get it to 2:32.
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Sorry for the apparent bad info, MPH711. I was doing a quick "soup to nuts, overall research sweep" on the song this morning, after Aaron's initial post. I did want to try to provide some background info on the genesis of the 1973 & 1975 45 releases, since it was key to my "earlier, non-hit 45" assertion. I had previously known that WLS was responsible for the 1975 resurgence of "Lady". So when I saw its Wiki entry (which currently does have the Biondi/8PM info on it), I just went with it (which I normally wouldn't have, without a double/triple check), because it basically jived with what I did know to be true. And also due to its "basically FYI" nature. I've spent my life in CT, not Chicago, so I much appreciate your personal WLS airstaff/timeline knowledge, MPH711, to refute the info on Wiki. Do any of our midwest "regulars", with good 70's knowledge (like my buddy Doug, aka "sriv94", for example) have more accurate WLS/Lady details? Like was there just one specific DJ who was playing it? Or was this a decision made by the MD and/or PD at WLS? Doing things like this could often cause positive buzz for a radio station-especially if the song catches on. Knowing the inner workings of Top 40 radio myself, it was very uncommon back in 1975 for a DJ of a 50,000 watt, major market station to be playing a two-year old, stiff 45, on his own, and without prior MD/PD approval. Doing things like that would usually get a DJ in big trouble - if not fired. Edited by jimct |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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You rang? :)
Actually, it was then weekend disc jockey Jeff Davis who convinced management to give the song a shot. Management agreed, and "Lady" picked up steam from there. Believe it pretty much was confined to nights at first. John Records Landecker was doing weeknights and Saturday nights at that point. Edited by sriv94 |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Well that was quick! :)
Thank you for answering my "gong", Lurch!!! You are now free to rejoin Morticia, Gomez, Uncle Fester, Wednesday, Pugsley, Thing, Cousin Itt and Grandmama, from my beloved, iconic "Addams Family" 60's b/w sitcom.... Edited by jimct |
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MPH711 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I can tell that living in Chicago all this time it was a cool thing when
WLS started playing it. My friends and I all knew it should have been a hit. I can't tell you how many great songs we knew that didn't get major airplay that we all felt if WLS or another major station would just start playing some of these songs that they would catch on. Back to Aaron original comment about the promo edit of Lady. Now we also know the original stock 45 had the edit. The original 45 also had a different b-side (You Better Ask) than the later release. |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 40 |
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The sound on RCA's Nipper's Greatest Hits The '70s (1989) is quite nice. There's a digital clone on Simitar's Love Rocks 2 Tonight's The Night (1998; 1.684 dB louder).
Using Nipper's Greatest Hits The '70s as a source, you can create the non-hit 1973 45 version by removing 2:20.1 to 2:44.4. The edit is on the first syllable of the word "sparkling", as Aaron noted. |
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