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    Posted: 07 July 2006 at 9:50am
In the "DJ Edits" thread, there was some info posted about "Miracle" by Whitney Houston. I recently obtained a copy of the promo single, and I have some interesting news to report.

The insert of my copy has the catalog number ASCD-2222; however, the disc itself has a catalog number of ASCD-2252. The printed run time says (4:29), but the actual run time is (4:34). So, apparently there is more than one DJ single of "Miracle."
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I read over that thread and didn't see any info as to what exactly's been deleted on the DJ edit (hopefully I didn't miss it)

So I'm going to borrow a question from Doug: how does the DJ edit differ from the album version?

I was actually listening to this song the other day and trying to think of where edits could have occured. I came up with a few that could have trimmed it down about a minute (I'll post them later if anyone's interested).

To be honest I didn't know there was an edit for that song. With certain songs, the way they're structured, to me it seems hard to do edits on them. Have there been any long songs out there that are just not possible to edit in a reasonable fashion?
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To be honest, I'm not sure what was chopped out to make the edit. The only copy I own of this song is my newly acquired DJ single.
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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

The insert of my copy has the catalog number ASCD-2222; however, the disc itself has a catalog number of ASCD-2252. The printed run time says (4:29), but the actual run time is (4:34). So, apparently there is more than one DJ single of "Miracle."
I have the "listed and actual" ASCD-2222 promo CD single. It has one track, no listed time, with an actual time of (4:58). I will shoot this version out to you, Aaron, so you can compare it against your (4:34) version.
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I just compared Jim's version to mine, and here's my findings:

- the (4:34) edit removes from (3:02) to (3:19) of the longer DJ edit, cutting from "the choice" to "the voice"

- the (4:34) edit has a drum beat missing at (4:19); it's only a bongo on this edit, whereas the other DJ edit has a drum beat and bongo together---a mix difference rather than editing difference

- the (4:34) edit starts fading around (4:19), which is about 15 seconds earlier in the song than the longer edit

- the longer edit has a quick fade and about seven more seconds of audio at the end than the (4:34) version
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I believe the commercial single version of "Miracle" is the same as its album counterpart, but can anyone confirm the exact commerical single run time for us?
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I seem to recall that the cassingle used the album version and the 45 used the 4:34 edit... I think Ed can straighten us out on this.
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the commercial cassingle conatins the full length 5:43 version....i don't have the 45 to double check that version and run time....jim??.....i don't have the cassingle right now to scan...but will be getting them this weekend...
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Calling Ron G.,

Can you post edit points to recreate the 4:34 DJ edit?
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Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

....i don't have the 45 to double check that version and run time....jim??.....
Sorry, Ed, by 1991 I had "given up the ghost" when it came to buying commercial singles, due to massive 45 unavailability. Unlike you, I abhorred cassette singles, and at the time considered them useless. But had I known there'd by a Board like this, coming years down the road, I probably would've kept buying, though...
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