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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 125 |
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No notes in the database, so here's what I came up with for "Young Turks" by Rod Stewart. The 45 is an edit of the LP version and runs 4:34. Printed time on the promo 45 is 4:35.
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Santi Paradoa ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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BTW the digital 45 of "Young Turks" is on iTunes.
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 125 |
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Good info. Thanks!
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Fetta ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Hey Aaron,
DO you know what the edit points are? Thanks. -Jeff |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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I reverse-engineered the Digital 45, and I'm assuming that the Digital 45 has the same edit points as the real 45.
Here are instructions for recreating the 45 edit, using the 4-CD Storyteller (1989) as the source. Finding the edit points was a little tricky, since the song uses a programmed rhythm section that repeats a lot. I'd put my confidence level around 80% for the edit points. The good news is that if I can't hear a misplaced edit, you probably won't be able to, either. Segment 1: 32 beats long Extends from 0:00 to 0:12.2 of both the LP version and the 45 edit. This segment ends on a downbeat. Remove the 16 beats from 0:12.2 to 0:18.2 of the LP version. Segment 2: 204 beats long Extends from 0:18.2 to 1:34.4 of the LP version Extends from 0:12.2 to 1:28.4 of the 45 edit This segment ends on a downbeat. Remove the 16 beats from 1:34.4 to 1:40.3 if the LP version. Segment 3: 341 beats long (good thing I found a new counter!) Extends from 1:40.3 to 3:47.6 of the LP version Extends from 1:28.4 to 3:35.6 of the 45 edit The segment ends on a snare hit. Remove the 32 beats from 3:47.6 to 3:59.5 of the LP version. Segment 4: 112 beats long Extends from 3:59.5 to 4:41.3 of the LP version Extends from 3:35.6 to 4:17.4 of the 45 edit This segment ends on a snare hit. Remove the 16 beats from 4:41.3 to 4:47.3 of the LP version. Segment 5: Starts on a snare hit and extends to end of song Extends from 4:47.3 to 5:02.9 (end) of the LP version Extends from 4:17.4 to 4:33.1 (end) of the 45 edit The LP and 45 use the same fade points Your mixdown will run 4:31 (excluding the outro silence), with edit points at 0:12.2, 1:28.4, 3:35.6, and 4:17.4. The song runs at 160.7 BPM. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Doers anybody have "Storyteller," and "The Definitive" to compare the EQ on this track between the two releases?
If you believe YouTube, "Storyteller" sounds significantly crisper than The Definitive, so much so that the EQ is bringing different instruments to the forefront and I wondered for a moment if it was a different mix (I now believe they are identical mixes, just wildly different equalization). The Definitive video is the one that is labeled "2008 remaster" which seems even stranger. Was the original LP / single dull-sounding? Storyteller was put out in 1989 so unless this was a conscious artistic decision I don't understand why the newer master would sound like it's missing the high end of the older. I'd love to get some insight on this! I have no vinyl to compare to either CD. Edited by NightAire |
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Storyteller has what I would call a bright and thin sound
on most of the 80s tracks. It wouldn't surprise me if the Warner Brothers stuff on that box set was just digitally compiled from whatever digital album masters were used for the original first run of WB Rod Stewart CDs. |
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