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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Once Billboard converted its Hot 100 methodology from
tracking records to songs, it became more common for country songs to chart and even reach the Hot 100's Top 40 with airplay only at country radio. For example, just look at how many times Tim McGraw has reached the Top 40 of the Hot 100 since 1999 with only one of his country hits, "Live Like You Were Dying," getting any Pop airplay. Prior to 1998, there were many country songs that reached or bubbled under the Hot 100. How many of these songs truly crossed over or did they chart just based on their sales? Usually, airplay at AC was a good indicator a song was crossing over. But, some of the biggest country hits of the 1970's such as "Satin Sheets" (No. 26) and "Heaven's Just A Sin Away" (No. 47) never charted AC. |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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For this question, I like to consult the Radio & Records
Top Pop Hits book. During the 1970s, crossover was fairly common. Artists like Glen Campbell, John Denver, Kenny Rogers and Ronnie Milsap did it a lot. But a lot of their music could also be considered AC. The more "traditional" acts like Merle Haggard and Loretta Lynn never really did it. After the Urban Cowboy craze in the early 1980s, true Country crossovers were very few and far between. There's only a few that I can think of post 1984. "I'll Still Be Loving You" by Restless Heart managed to get to #34 on R&R in 1987. "Achy Breaky Heart" by Billy Ray Cyrus got to #27 in 1992. Shania Twain had a few crossover hits in 1998-99. "I Hope You Dance" by Lee Ann Womack got to #24 in 2001. "You'll Think Of Me" by Keith Urban got to #32 in 2005. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 124 |
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I asked a similar question in another thread (1999 and later), in case
anyone is interested in reading the replies there: http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9117 Edited by aaronk |
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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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It's ironic that you replied, Paul - it's one of the
Hot 100 books that inspired my question! The songs you cited were obvious crossovers that charted AC and, since the 90's, at Pop/Top 40 radio as well. What about country songs that made or bubbled under the Hot 100 without any clear crossover activity? For example, Ronnie Milsap had several crossover hits, but also charted with songs like "Please Don't Tell Me How The Story Ends" and "Cowboys And Clowns" on the Hot 100 or Bubbling Under, but nowhere else other than country. Same with Dolly Parton whose "Light Of A Clear Blue Morning" hit the Hot 100, but no other chart except Country. Were songs like these crossing over or just selling well enough to register on the Hot 100/Bubbling Under charts? |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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I guess I misunderstood your question.
Yeah, I'd say most of those were strictly sales-driven. Although there were some reporting Top 40 stations that were more apt to give a big Country hit a shot at some airplay. |
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AutumnAarilyn ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 22 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Back in the early 80's, I was quite young but do
remember WALL, our local Top 40/AC leaning station played tons of country crossover like Kenny Rogers. When they recently revived the station, they left that chapter out along with some big hits that should be left behind by artists like Rick Dees, Debbie Boone, and Shaun Cassidy. This market is about 70 miles west of New York City. Edited by AutumnAarilyn |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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Autumn, Did you grow up in NYC? I always heard Kenny alongside a lot of popular pop during the 80's. |
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Paul C ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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Another factor to keep in mind is that during the time that the Hot 100
was based on airplay and sales data supplied to Billboard by radio stations and retailers (that is, prior to late 1991, when Billboard started to use BDS and Soundscan data), for a record to appear on the Hot 100, at least ten stations on the Hot 100 ‘reporting panel’, all of whom at the time were ‘Top 40/CHR’ stations, had to report that they were playing the record. That is why a country or R&B record could sell hundreds of thousands of copies and not chart on the Hot 100. For the retail component of the data used to tabulate the Hot 100, sales data from retailers that specialized in country, R&B, or any other genre was not used. Prior to late 1991, country songs that appeared on the Hot 100 were legitimate crossover hits. All that changed in late 1991, when the minimum ‘pop’ airplay requirement was dropped and country records started to appear on the Hot 100 solely from sales. Airplay data from country stations was not incorporated into the Hot 100 until late 1998, when even more country songs started appearing on the Hot 100. |
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AutumnAarilyn ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 22 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Hey PopArchivist:
I grew up in the outer ring suburbs of NYC but was fully aware of what got played chiefly on Black radio in NYC. Listening to the radio was a daily ritual in the 80s and early 90s. Billboard accurately represented what was being played as back then they had a feel for what songs crossed over to what chart. |
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Online Points: 8 |
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To Paul C:
Very interesting paragraph here: "Another factor to keep in mind is that during the time that the Hot 100 was based on airplay and sales data supplied to Billboard by radio stations and retailers (that is, prior to late 1991, when Billboard started to use BDS and Soundscan data), for a record to appear on the Hot 100, at least ten stations on the Hot 100 ‘reporting panel’, all of whom at the time were ‘Top 40/CHR’ stations, had to report that they were playing the record. That is why a country or R&B record could sell hundreds of thousands of copies and not chart on the Hot 100." I never knew that!! I've been a subscriber to Billboard since about 1976 and I never recall reading that - But looking back it seems like it could have very well been true! Do you, or anyone else out there for that matter have any "documentation" of that minimum ten stations to hit the Hot 100, or was it kept underground? That really explains why some big sellers never charted on the Hot 100 at all - which I never could figure out as I was growing up. Comments are welcome from everybody... Thanks! Andy |
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