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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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the db lists only one entry for the bill haley song "(we're
gonna) rock around the clock", but, the song was originally released in 1955 as decca 29124 and then re-released in 1974 as mca 60025, do to it's inclusion in the then popular tv series "happy days".....i'm reviewing bill haley this afternoon and i have both vinyl 45's....what's interesting is the original issue as decca 29124 doesn't have the count of "1, 2" at the beginning while the re-issue mca 60025 does.....don't know how this info s/b incorporated into the db, but for top 40 purist like us, it should be noted that the two issuance's of the song on 45 are NOT the same..... |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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I don't want to speak for Pat, but I'm guessing he may not have listed the 1974 re-release of Bill Haley and His Comets' "(We're gonna) Rock Around the Clock" due to its low peak position on other major music chart publications besides Billboard. Still, in my humble opinion I think it warrants mentioning the "with countdown/without countdown" distinction between the two releases. |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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paul haney....i don't know whether it's worth noting, but
the "billboard hot 100 annual" book i have from 1955-2005 says that the 1955 and 1974 releases of "(we're gonna) rock around the clock" are the same....technically, that's not correct, but i don't know whether that is worth an amendment in future additions or not.... |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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MCA 60025 may have its own set of variations, not only because it remained in print over several decades and three label designs, but because it had already been a part of the label's 60000-series oldies lineup prior to being promoted as a current in 1974. The reissue which charted in 1974 was on the black-and-silver rainbow label, and my copy does not have the spoken "1-2" count-off. It begins with the drumbeats/"One, two, three o'clock, four o'clock rock..." intro just as the original Decca 29124 did. I don't have the 1974 DJ 45, but remember playing it at the time, and it likewise did not have the spoken "1-2" count-off. I'd never even heard that count-off prior to the track's appearance on MCA's Vintage Music, Vol. 3 CD. Ed, Decca 29124 was first issued in May of 1954 and it charted in Billboard for one week at number 23 at the end of that month. It would take one calendar year and a jumpstart from its exposure in The Blackboard Jungle before it became a smash hit. The deadwax on my 60025 reissue is "86163 W-1", with the numeral "2" opposite, which indicated it was pressed by MCA's Pinckneyville, Illinois plant. That "2" also indicated that it was an older stamper from MCA's pre-1973 Decca label, as the "2" was replaced by the "<>-P-<>" symbol in '73 for Pinckneyville pressings. |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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yah shure....i think you may be on to something here....as
they say in the nfl...."upon further review".....my commercial 45 issued as mca 60025 is of the blue rainbow varity....in addition, which i didn't notice at first....it does say copyright 1980 around the bottom half of the label near the vinyl......so this clearly wasn't the version issued in 1974....i will have to track down the black rainbow version now.....so the 1954 and 1974 release actually ARE the same....and this 1980 re-reissue is not.....very puzzling.... Edited by edtop40 |
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KentT ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I own the MCA 60025 single in original black rainbow label and blue rainbow last label. The Black Rainbow I have has "Rock Around The Clock" from a new MCA Stamper, "Thirteen Women" is an old Decca stamper. And has bass to die for. And "Rock Around The Clock" has no 1-2 countoff. My Blue Rainbow issue has MCA stampers on both sides, and 1-2 on "Rock Around The Clock"
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Paul C ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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The first appearance of the countoff that I'm aware of was on the 1985 Steve Hoffman mastered CD From The Original Master Tapes. Ed's copy of MCA 60025 was likely pressed after this date. My copy of 60025, which I purchased in the early 1980s, also has the light blue 'rainbow' label but does not have the countoff. It's surprising that MCA would have bothered to remaster the re-issue 45 some time after 1985 but apparently they did.
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TomDiehl1 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Not relating to the 45 at all, but when the song was used in an episode of Quantum Leap (the Good Morning, Peoria episode when Sam leaps into a DJ in Peoria, Illinois in 1959), the song gets put on the air and one hears a fade-in of the countoff before the song starts, which I found a bit funny.
As for the MCA issues of the 45, I have a blue rainbow label copy which does not have the countoff. |
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The correct 45 version does not contain the 1-2 countoff. Numerous versions on CD are either missing the opening drum beat, a rerecording or they have the 1,2 countoff. If you notice any of that then you have a non-hit version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V7mVlilRSM Edited by PopArchivist |
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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The compilation, "American Heartbeat 1955" doesn't have the count-off or drumbeat, but starts cold with Bill Haley singing, "One, two, three o'clock,
four o'clock rock". That's the only time I've ever heard the song open cold with vocals. |
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