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Topic: stylistics stop look listen
Posted: 25 February 2011 at 4:59pm

my commercial 45 for the stylistics song "stop, look,
listen (to your heart)" issued as avco embassy 4572 states
a run time on the label as 2:57 but actually runs 2:59 and
is approximately 0:05 LONGER than all the db entries which
run in the 2:50-2:52 range.....the 45 is also in
mono.....this info s/b added to the db...

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Posted: 26 February 2011 at 12:05am

Does the vinyl parent LP have a longer run time? Or, is this a case of LP length in the database?

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Posted: 27 February 2011 at 5:06pm

My DJ 45 (a Monarch pressing) states a time of (2:57) but runs an actual (2:59). The last second or so is a little on the faint side, but it's very hissy, too. The tail end of the fade ends very abruptly, and the hiss disappears at that point.

EDIT: I'd forgotten that I had The Stylistics LP (Avco 33023), the one that finally came out during the run of their third chart single, and would go on to produce two more.

The LP track has a stated time of (2:54) and an actual time of (2:52). The LP track runs just a hair slower than the DJ 45, but the difference isn't really significant. Fade times are as follows:

LP: 2:42 to 2:52
DJ 45: 2:48 to 2:59

It would appear that LP and CD releases simply faded earlier, perhaps to eliminate the hissy ending.

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Posted: 01 March 2011 at 11:17am

I haven't thought about that song in awhile.
I remember having it on an album called Chartstoppers.
The album also had songs by Lobo, BJ Thomas, the Bells, and that great Magic Lanterns song "One Night Stand."

the way it was heard on the radio

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Posted: 01 March 2011 at 1:42pm

If you convert any of the CD versions to mono, then paste on a dub of a clean 45 at the end, you'll have the true 45 version. The stereo versions fading point is also a bit earlier than on the 45.

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Posted: 02 March 2011 at 8:17pm

bwolfe wrote:

I remember having it on an album called Chartstoppers.
The album also had songs by Lobo, BJ Thomas, the Bells, and that great Magic Lanterns song "One Night Stand."

I found that 20 Chartstoppers Vol. 1 LP on Salem Select in the cutouts back in '74 or '75, and picked it up for the Morning Mist (Cashman & West) track, "California On My Mind."

While all of the tracks on that ten-to-a-side compilation were processed via the "puree" setting on the ol' Compress-O-Matic, at least the Magic Lanterns cut was the mono single, and not the wonky stereo mix that appeared on the Collectables Shame, Shame CD. Not that "One Night Stand" ever sounded like a sonic masterpiece in the first place; even the original 45 issue on Atlantic was a little on the shrill side.

Speaking of the Stylistics, "You Are Everything" was also included on that album, and in stereo (the mono "Stop, Look, Listen" appeared in mildly-reprocessed stereo, with an earlier fade than the 45.)

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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 10:20am

Yah Shure wrote:

Not that "One Night Stand" ever sounded like a sonic masterpiece in the first place; even the original 45 issue on Atlantic was a little on the shrill side.

You think the Atlantic single sounded bad...the 1971 re-issue on Big Tree sounds worse. Sounds like it was mastered from a cassette dub (which had been a dub of an 8-track). Then there's the rather "unique" edit of the word "hell" in the chorus...

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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 3:31pm

Hykker wrote:

Then there's the rather "unique" edit of the word "hell" in the chorus...

Having fetched the Atlantic DJ 45 from my college station's reject pile, I never saw the need to buy the later Big Tree issue. But having never heard the latter, I'm almost afraid to ask about that "unique" edit.

While I couldn't find a Big Tree dub anywhere on Y'allTube, there were a couple of "the radio bleeped it out" comments. Was the bleep on both promo and stock Big Tree 45s? Not that the uncensored Atlantic DJ 45 likely did the record any favors in radio's eyes, of course.

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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 5:39pm

Yah Shure wrote:

I never saw the need to buy the later Big Tree issue. But having never heard the latter, I'm almost afraid to ask about that "unique" edit.

While I couldn't find a Big Tree dub anywhere on Y'allTube, there were a couple of "the radio bleeped it out" comments. Was the bleep on both promo and stock Big Tree 45s?

"Beeped" is an understatement. The word is obliterated by hum that's a good 7-8 dB louder than the song. It's almost like someone unplugged an RCA cable enough so the shield wasn't making contact but the center conductor still was.

We didn't play the song at the station where I was a part-timer in 1970/71, and I didn't realize it had been previously released until a couple years later when I picked up an Atlantic promo copy at a record show, but my stock Big Tree single has the edit. ISTR the local T-40 playing the same version so I presume the promo was the same way.

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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 7:20pm

Hykker wrote:

"Beeped" is an understatement. The word is obliterated by hum that's a good 7-8 dB louder than the song. It's almost like someone unplugged an RCA cable enough so the shield wasn't making contact but the center conductor still was.

Yikes! Thanks for letting me know that I saved 88¢ and some sanity by passing that abomination up. :)