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 Topic: JOHN HUNTER - "Tragedy"Posted: 03 September 2008 at 11:04pm |
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JOHN HUNTER - "Tragedy"
The actual commercial 45 running time is (3:45), the listed time is "3:48" on the record label. (Private ZS4 04643) |
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 05 December 2011 at 6:15pm |
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Does anyone have the John Hunter "Famous At Night" LP and can they tell me the timing of "Tragedy" on that? Was it longer than the single?
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Posted: 05 December 2011 at 10:02pm |
The LP cut runs just under 3:46 on my turntable, so I would say that the 45 and LP appear to be the same length. |
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Posted: 20 June 2012 at 11:04am |
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I found a version from a 45 that runs 4:13. It's the same as the 3:46 version until the 2:00 mark, then it's a different edit. It looks like the 3:46 version can be created from my 4:13 version with a little editing and an early fade.
I dubbed it myself from vinyl in January, 2002, and all my notes say is: "Taken from A-side of Private I 7-inch #ZS4 04643, 1984 (3:48)" So the printed time is way off. I'd supply the matrix number, but the 45 has been buried in my basement and unseen by human eyes since January, 2002. Due to my ineffective filing system, I don't know if I have a commercial 45 or a promo 45. Anyone know? Edited by crapfromthepast |
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Posted: 20 June 2012 at 11:20am |
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Ha! Just for kicks I checked the "H" section, and there it was, right next to my Human League singles. Alphabetization rules!
It's a commercial 45, with a bar code and everything. Matrix number ZS4-04643-3AF-1, and I played it to confirm that it does indeed run 4:13, even though it has a printed time of 3:48. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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Posted: 20 June 2012 at 2:10pm |
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Good find! I have dubs of the shorter commercial 45 and the LP, and they are the same 3:45 version.
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Posted: 20 June 2012 at 2:52pm |
So what is it exactly? Does it simply have an extended second verse at 2:00? |
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Posted: 20 June 2012 at 4:25pm |
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I have 2 copies. My promo - Matrix BA-ZS4-04643-3 runs 3:46. My Stock - Matrix BB-ZS4-04643-3 (with an 06 scratched out after the ZS4, but before the rest) also runs 3:46.
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Posted: 20 June 2012 at 6:51pm |
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Yes, it's an extended verse. For the short version, they cut the verse in
half. |
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Figured i'd add some info i noticed about the longer 45
version. (thanks, Ron for sending it!!) I happened to notice a difference right in the intro, then i caught a few others. The longer version is at a faster pitch, and a different mix. The bass track was completely re-cut for the charting version of the song. Oh, and...due to some "inside info" that a friend has, we believe the longer version is the first one released. The shorter one's master is labeled as a remix, and it is. The vocal is drier, some very subtle mix differences, runs slower, and as i said has a completely different bass track re-cut for it. When comparing them, the bass-notes on the intro of the long version are a little different from each other, and have a few "flubbed" notes. Also the "clap" sound is in the center. The shorter hit version, every bass note is identical thru-out the intro, and the clap" is in the left channel. Just thought i'd share that! MM |
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