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    Posted: 05 November 2004 at 2:46pm
I thought I'd post a few US single edits/mixes I've found on CDs not listed in the book:

Nikita - Elton John (US single edit - 4:53) (UK promo CD sampler, Rocket/Phonogram, 1989, EJCD 89)

Everything She Wants - Wham (remix edit - 5:28) (third track on UK Maxi CD single of "Last Christmas," 1992, Epic EPC 653185 2) (Single incorrectly lists running time of 5:20 -- I A/B'd them)

I Write the Songs - Barry Manilow (single edit - 3:42) (Reader's Digest "Celebration - Today's Great Stars, Great Songs" 4-CD set, 1989, 036C)

Things - Bobby Darin (mono mix) ZYX Music's "Pop History 1962," Germany, 1996 (ZYX 10034-2)

Purple Rain - Prince (single edit - 4:02) (UK "Music of the Millennium" 2-CD set, 2000, Universal International BV/EMI/Virgin, 560436-2)

To be continued...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 November 2004 at 3:25am
Forgot to mention that Elton sampler with Nikita is called "The World." At least, that's what it says on the artwork, though the CD itself just says "Elton John."
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Here are more rare mixes/versions I own that are not in Pat's book... mainly mono mixes.

All songs are clearly from tape sources, and are from legit, licensed CDs. While sound quality varies from excellent to fair, there's nothing truly horrible in here. None of them are drowning in hiss or anything.


Poetry in Motion – Johnny Tillotson (mono mix) "20 Collector's Records of the 50's & 60's, Volume 13," Laurie / Continental Communications Corp, 1989

Venus – Frankie Avalon (mono mix) Reader's Digest "The Top Ten Collection - The Late '50s," 4-CD set, 1999, catalog 3416

Stagger Lee – Lloyd Price (mono mix) Reader's Digest "The Top Ten Collection - The Late '50s," 4-CD set, 1999, catalog 3416

Tea for Two Cha-Cha – Tommy Dorsey (mono mix) Reader's Digest "The Best Loved Bands of All Time," 4-CD set, 1997, catalog 002B

Personality – Lloyd Price (mono mix) Reader's Digest UK "The Golden Age of Rock 'n' Roll – 1959," 3-CD set, 1995, RDCD 1251-3 [note: much, much better sound quality here than the mono mix on Roulette "Original Rock n Roll Hits of the 50's Vol. 4"]

Like a Prayer – Madonna (45 version/mix – 5:21) "Time 100 Vol. 2 - The Music of Our Lives 1980-1999," two-disc set, Warner Music Canada, 1999, WTVD 38066

It Must Have Been Love - Roxette (45 version/mix - 3:51) "Mystic Music presents Cool Rock," two-disc set, Mystic Music / CEMA Special Products, 1995, S22-18168

A World Without Love – Peter & Gordon (MONO mix – odd, since artwork specifically lists it as stereo) "On My Radio – Top Hits of the 1960's," EMI Music Canada, 1999, 72435-20983-2-3

The below are from "The Original Rock 'n Roll Hits of the 60's Volume 1," Roulette, 1986, RCD 58003 [note: spine and back cover both omit term "The Original"]

California Dreamin' – The Mamas & The Papas (mono mix)
Mony Mony – Tommy James & the Shondels (mono mix)
Crimson & Clover – Tommy James & the Shondells (mono LP length)

These are from "The Original Rock 'n Roll Hits of the 60's Volume 2," Roulette, 1986, RCD 58004 [note: spine and back cover both omit term "The Original"]

Crystal Blue Persauasion – Tommy James & the Shondells (mono LP length)
Easier Said Than Done – The Essex (mono mix)   
Monday, Monday – The Mamas & the Papas (mono mix)
Dizzy – Tommy Roe (mono, LP speed)
Gypsy Woman – The Impressions (mono mix)
Midnight Confessions – The Grassroots (mono mix)

All of the below are from the 14-disc promo-only "MCA Music Publishing – It's About the Music" (MPD12-100)

1.It's Not Unusual – Tom Jones (mono mix)
2.1-2-3 – Len Barry (mono mix)
3.My love – Petula Clark (mono mix)
4.Don't Sleep in the Subway – Petula Clark (mono mix)
1.This is My Song – Petula Clark (mono mix)
2.Gimme Dat Ding – The Pipkins (mono mix)
3.For All We Know – Carpenters (mono, though I believe the commercial single was stereo)
4.I Don't Know How to Love Him – Yvonne Elliman (mono - 3:32)
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Just today I found an (E) version of Lorne Green's "Ringo" on a UK import called "1965 - The Soundtrack." It's somewhat hissy, and it does sound like it could POSSIBLY be from vinyl, as there are a couple muffled crackles on the fadeout of the last note. Not necessarily, though -- I've heard that sort of thing on tape sources before.

Strangely, it sounds a bit distorted in (E)... until you fold the channels together into mono... then it actually sounds good! The distortion seems to disappear. It's weird.

I also found what I assume is the original take of The Larks' "The Jerk" on Kent's (subsidiary of Ace UK) "Don Julian & The Larks - The Money Recordings." It's in mono, running 2:34. It's a bit hissy, but the liner notes say "Transferred from original analogue master tapes."

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Another recent find was the US single mix of Pat Benatar's "Hit Me With Your Best Shot," which contains an extra guitar overdub. It's on the UK version of her "Best Shots" CD, from Chrysalis, the one with a color photo of her on the cover. I got mine recently from www.Amazon.co.uk. You can hear the difference in the mix right from the start of the song.
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A couple from 1971 on imports:

"Don't Knock My Love" by Wilson Pickett: Part one is available on several different anthologies listed in Pat's book, but the only CD I've found which has parts one and two is "Really Heavy Soul" an anthology of 70's soul music on the UK Ocho label emphasizing hot soul guitar work. The sound is OK, but probably mastered from vinyl. Although the CD has mostly complete versions, at least one, Curtis Mayfield's "Don't Worry, If There's a Hell Below We're All Going to Go" is the 7:03 edit.

"Rings" by Cymarron: the 2:31 LP version is on many antholgies, but the 2:46 45 version can be found on a Dutch import, "Definitive 70's Volume I" from ca. 1997. A few other American hits are included and many more UK and European hits are also on this 4 disc set. Again, probably mastered from vinyl.

Both sets are available through Amazon marketplaces and other sources.
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Here are some 45 versions not available on CD in the U.S. that I've found on import discs:

==> The 4:15 45 version of The Moody Blues' "I Know You're Out There Somewhere" appears on the band's 2-CD best-of set The Singles + (Holland: BR Music BS 8123-2). This compilation can be found at most major CD retail chains.

==> The 45 versions of Huey Lewis & The News' "I Want a New Drug" and "Walking on a Thin Line", running 3:30 and 4:01 respectively, can be found on The Heart of Rock & Roll: The Best of (UK: Chrysalis 21934).

==> The following songs by Santana appear in their correct 45 version form and length on the group's The Ultimate Collection 3-CD set (Holland: Sony Music Media SMMTV12):
"She's Not There" - 3:13
"You Know That I Love You" - 3:28
"Hold On" - 3:51
The CD package claims the contents of this three disc set are "all original re-mastered single versions". This is not the case, however, as many of the Santana songs on here are LP versions.
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Thanks, Todd. I've been looking for those Huey Lewis edits.
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Thanks for the tip on the Pat Benatar "Hit Me With Your Best Shot," Brian. I just got my copy in the mail today.
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Just got the British import "1968: The Soundtrack" in the mail today, and John Fred's "Judy in Disguise" is mono, or at the least very, very slightly "E."

For anyone who collects mono mixes, like me (though I know I'm in the minority), there are a few late sixties/early seventies mono "mixes" that I've determined are almost certainly fold-downs of their stereo album mixes. How do I know? Because when I fold down the stereo version it sounds just like the mono 45! Not only that, the waveform looks almost exactly the same as the 45 waveform:

Ray Stevens - Everything is Beautiful
BJ Thomas - Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head
Jeannie C. Riley - Harper Valley PTA

I'm looking into others -- I suspect the same may be true of "Wedding Bell Blues," but I don't have the 45 to compare.

One that is definitely NOT a fold-down is "Hair." That's too bad, 'cause I HATE the stereo mix of that song, it's awful. Also, there is reverb on the lead vocal on the mono 45 that is not in the stereo version.

And, though most mono singles of the sixties were dedicated mono mixes, Bill Porter claims virtually everything he ever engineered at RCA Nashville was mixed in stereo first, then folded down for the mono mix -- that means much of Elvis '60s output, much of the Everly Brothers (including "Cathy's Clown"), Roy Orbison and Jim Reeves.
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