Tears For Fears-"Mothers Talk"

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   Since current database CDs stating "45 Version" for this song range bewteen (4:11) and (4:16), I decided to time my commercial 45. It has a listed time of (4:14) and an actual time of (4:15).

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Tears For Fears-"Mothers Talk" Posted: 13 December 2007 at 10:47pm
	Since current database CDs stating "45 Version" for this song range bewteen (4:11) and (4:16), I decided to time my commercial 45. It has a listed time of (4:14) and an actual time of (4:15).

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 266	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2009 at 11:40pm
	Jim, there might be an explanation for the timing differences. I was just reading on wikipedia.org that there are some mislabled versions floating around on CD. The first claim is that the 1999 remaster of Songs From the Big Chair has added reverb on "Mother's Talk (US Remix)," which is a bonus track. The second claim is that the Deluxe Edition of Big Chair has a different "remix" of "Mother's Talk," even though it is labeled as "US Remix." Perhaps this could explain the time variance; however, I do not own any of the CDs I just mentioned. I only have Shout: The Very Best Of..., which supposedly has the correct version.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 266	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 January 2010 at 1:02pm
	Was anyone ever able to verify if the remastered versions of "Songs From The Big Chair" contained alternate remixed versions? From Wikipedia regarding the 1999 remaster: "'Mothers Talk (U.S. Remix)' on the remastered CD is the correct version of this remix, but has had additional reverb applied to it. The 1999 remaster is the only CD on which this 'extra reverb' version can be found." Regarding the 2-disc Deluxe Edition: "Track 7 is labeled 'U.S. Remix' on the packaging but is in fact a different version from the real 'Mothers Talk (U.S. Remix)' on the original vinyl singles."

cmmmbase Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 04 May 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote cmmmbase Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 January 2010 at 4:32pm
	I can verify that the 2-disc deluxe edition does not contain the US 7" version. track 7 on disc 2 is different from the get go - a different mix for sure... It's similiar to the 7" version, but contains some different elements. Edited by cmmmbase

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 266	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 January 2010 at 10:36pm
	Thanks, Chuck. Looks like the database will need to be updated.