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    Posted: 01 November 2007 at 8:01pm
my commercial 45, issued as atlantic 3457, states on the 45's label the running time is 4:05, but it actually runs 3:58.....if you fade-out for 0:04 from 3:54 to 3:58 you'll re-create the true 45 version....this accounts for the differing run times in the db......this should be noted in the db....

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My only promo 45, on both the mono and stereo sides, has both a listed and actual time of (3:25). But I also see a notation for this song, about a DJ 45 than "runs (3:30)". Can anyone provide any further details? Is it perhaps a short/long promo, with the commercial 45 version possibly included on the other side? The (3:25) edit, which involves QUITE a number of edits to re-create (from what I've been told), was the one we played on the radio in 1978.
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There were two different edits that I know of. One is a white label release which says 3:25 on the label, runs 3:25, is mono/stereo and edits out the female talking parts and shortens the song near the end. These were actual edits which can be re-created, not remixes with the vocals out. One of those edits is a little sloppy. There is no number on the label, no Atlantic logo at all, the trail says A 35044 - 1 and ST - 35044 -1 and elsewhere on the trail has a triangle followed by the number 104377. There may have been a more traditional pressing of this one for promos but the one I have is a white label, with only ABBA , mono or stereo, the time, and the title on the label.

The other edit I have is on a standard Atlantic Promo single red/blue mono/stereo, has a time of 3:30 listed, runs ALMOST 3:33 but no quite, and on the trail is A 35054- 8 and ST 35054 -9 .. it keeps the talking in but shortens the song near the end. The edit point near the end to get to the "bah bah bah bah" part faster is not the same on both. They both shorten by about the same amount of time there, it's just a different edit point. I had never heard this version on the radio, I heard it for the first time when I picked it up a year or so ago. The station I worked, WTRY, used the "no talking" edit.

Yes there is a number difference, I triple checked, the white label's trail number is 35044 while the red/blue trail is 35054.

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Jim Or Bill,

Does anyone have a dub of the 3:25 version I can hear?

I recall when the song was a hit I tried to edit the song exactly like the promo, but I couldn't. I'd like to try again.

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Bill, my (3:25) promo 45 has the same, plain white, barren label look as yours, right down to the same deadwax #. I will be happy to send Andy an mp3 of that one. But Bill, if you plan to send Andy an mp3 of the listed (3:30), actual almost (3:33) version, would you also be able to shoot one out to me? Once again, Bill Cahill comes to the rescue, with ALL the needed details, and I, for one, VERY much appreciate it.
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Jim just sent me the 3:25 promo -- it's exactly the way I remember it.

And it's "impossible" for me to recreate. I just don't think it can be done.

Can anybody "prove" it can be edited from the full-length version?

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I concur with Andrew, it CAN'T be recreated because the 'spoken' parts appear to be overdubbed in...

Jim, is this the same as your promo 45? Wanted to make sure before I placed a bid...

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No, John, the one in the picture is the (3:30) promo 45, actually the one I'm currently looking for myself, and the one I have already asked Bill Cahill to send me an mp3 file of, whenever he gets time. If you re-read the earlier posts carefully, John, you will see that Bill Cahill exactly describes what both his and my (3:25) promo 45s look like visually, sir - it's NOT at all like the above, typical "Atlantic standard promo 45" look.
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Thank you, sir!
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Jim just sent me a digital recreation of the 3:25 promo that was done a few years back by an unnamed source.

It is impeccable.

I still can't figure out how the editor created the double-shot of the snare (as opposed to the snare-shot then tom-shot) in two of the places.

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