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    Posted: 04 January 2007 at 8:27pm
I have two different promo 45s for this. The first, featuring the standard EMI America label of the day, has the listed and actual (4:56) version on both sides, just like the commercial 45. We also got in a 2nd promo, with a blank white label (which was not all that unusual for Capitol/EMI during the 70s & 80s.) There is no time specified, but both sides have an actual time of (3:23). This edited version does not fade in; the first note features drumbeats.

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Jim, is that 3:23 short DJ version just chopping off the front and fading early, or is it a remix?
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Gene, it's not a remix. The intro is chopped, but it appears to retain the
ending of my stock 45. I'm not so hot at exact milli-second analysis, so
check your station's e-mail; I've forwarded this version to you. Please feel
free to analyze/share its exact edit point specifics.

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It's indeed an edit. I reverse-engineered Aaron's recreation of the promo 45 version.

Start with the LP and commercial 45 version on Living In Oblivion Vol. 2 (1993), which should be extremely inexpensive nowadays and sounds excellent. It runs 4:56, and uses a drum machine that runs from 108.1 BPM at the beginning to 108.2 BPM at the end.

Remove the first 6.1 seconds of the commercial 45/LP version. That will leave about 0.02 seconds before the first drum beat.

Segment 1:
187 beats long
Begins 0.02 seconds before the first drum beat
Ends on a snare
Extends from 0:00 to 1:44.0 of the promo 45 edit.
Extends from 0:06.1 to 1:49.8 of the commercial 45/LP version.
Add a short fade-in for the first 0.02 seconds of this segment, just before the drumbeat. (At least that's what Aaron did - it sounds quite good.)

Remove the 84 beats from 1:49.8 to 2:36.4 of the LP version.

Segment 2:
5 beats long
Begins on a snare
Ends on a downbeat
Extends from 1:44.0 to 1:46.7 of the promo 45 edit.
Extends from 2:36.4 to 2:39.2 of the commercial 45/LP version.

Remove the 8 beats from 2:39.2 to 2:43.6 of the commercial 45/LP version.

Segment 3:
89 beats long
Begins on a downbeat
Ends on a snare
Extends from 1:46.7 to 2:36.1 of the promo 45 edit.
Extends from 2:43.6 to 3:33.0 of the commercial 45/LP version.

Remove the 64 beats from 3:33.0 to 4:08.5 of the commercial 45/LP version.

Segment 4:
Begins on a snare
Extends from 2:36.1 to 3:23.7 (end) of the promo 45 edit.
Extends from 4:08.5 to 4:57.8 (end) of the commercial 45/LP version.

Your mixdown will run 3:23, with edits at 1:44.0, 1:46.7 and 2:36.1.

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...What CPTP said. :-) (Thanks, CPTP & Jim!)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bwci Bo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2014 at 5:36am
I've just spent the past hour or so trying to recreate the
promo 45 version using the information above. Needless to
say, while the instructions are very detailed, the end
result doesn't sound too flash. Does it sound this bad on
the original vinyl? Or is it just one of those cases where
you need to hear the original in order to replicate it
successfully? Can anyone with a copy of it assist me
please?
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While going through all of the songs from 1985 in the db last week, I happened to notice that two "Best of..."/"Greatest Hits"-type collections were missing from the listings, and interestingly, both are by highly-regarded female singers from the U.K., and in another parallel, both ended up being essentially "one-hit wonders" here in the U.S.: Alison Moyet and Kate Bush...

The one by Kate Bush, titled The Whole Story - which includes her lone U.S. top 40 hit, "Running Up That Hill" (track 7) - was issued on CD here in the U.S. in 1986 on EMI America 46414 (simultaneously w/ its vinyl LP & cassette counterparts - bought the latter myself at the time). Page on Discogs, complete w/ photos: KATE BUSH - "The Whole Story" (U.S. CD) The Whole Story appears to now be out-of-print here in the U.S., but luckily, it isn't extremely hard to find. Here's a used copy currently listed on eBay: KATE BUSH - "The Whole Story" (U.S. CD) And here's a second: KATE BUSH - "The Whole Story" (U.S. CD) (There's no question it's still very much in print as an import, anyway...)

Side note/fun fact: A special collector's edition of this song's original parent album, 1985's Hounds of Love, was issued here in the U.S.; EMI America made a limited pressing of the LP on marbled vinyl. What most people don't know is that the label also made a special marbled CASSETTE version for us tape fans as well, which I always thought was pretty cool. Needless to say, it's much rarer than the vinyl LP, and yes, I have a couple copies myself. :-) Page for the cassette version on Discogs, w/ photos: KATE BUSH - "Hounds of Love" (U.S. marbled cassette)
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BTW, thanks to Netflix this great 80s song is a US top 10
hit this week and number 2 in the UK. Pretty cool.
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YES!!!! VERY cool!!! Even if it's all about millions of
streams it's still the height of cool to see an 80s new
wave classic revitalized by this, and introduced to a
younger audience. Totally awesome!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 June 2022 at 4:01am
What's wild to me is that when I hear the song passively
(say on a store soundsystem or the radio) it doesn't sound
*retro* for a song almost 37 years old!

Despite the obvious LinnDrum programming it does not really
feel dated.

Maybe it's because it never got anywhere near overplayed in
the US.

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