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    Posted: 23 January 2024 at 2:52pm
What are the best stereo versions on CD of the above 2
songs? Also, I found a "1990 stereo mix" of Mr. Tambourine
Man. (That's how it's labeled.) Was there no stereo version
made in the '60s?
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Neither song was stereo in the 60s. "Mr. Tambourine Man" first stereo issue
1987 on Murray Hill Records subsidiary Re-Flyte Records LP "Never Before",
but in a narrow mix - this was on the 4-CD box set "The Byrds". A wide mix is
on 1992 CD "20 Essential Tracks From The Boxed Set: 1965-1990" which
fades later. "Turn! Turn! Turn!" is on the box set as well (a 2-track mix, which
is all we have), also fades later.
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The stereo LP version is in very narrow stereo. Vocals are slightly to the right.

It may not have been intentional, but the end result is slightly different from the mono LP & single.

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I ended up buying Byrds' "20 Essential Tracks from the
Boxed Set..." CD, which has both these songs in wide
stereo. Thanks for the info.
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mjb50,

Assuming you are refering to "Turn, Turn, Turn" here....I wouldn't refer to the
stereo version as "stereo LP version" is this case. As I mentioned above, it was
first issued in stereo in the CD era.

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David, that's interesting. So the slightly-stereo and the more fully stereo-
versions were both issued during the CD era? Is that the case?

My understanding is the wide-stereo versions were created in 1990 (well, at
least for Mr. Tambourine Man. Not sure when the one for "Turn! Turn! Turn!"
was created.)
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@EdisonLite, you weren't asking me, but yes, David is right about the full stereo mixes being from 1987 and 1992. The 1987 mix does not sound very authentic but the 1992 one is pretty good.

@davidclark, as for the LP version, I say listen for yourself in headphones. The linked examples are from US vinyl LPs but the same effect is heard on the CD reissues.

I realize that a line has to be drawn somewhere, and this may or may not be "accidental stereo" as sometimes happens. In my personal collection, I do consider the stereo LP version to be a stereo version, but with an asterisk. Of course, opinions can vary and experts can disagree.

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Mike, was there a 1992 (or 1990?) wide stereo mix done for Turn...? The Byrds'
"20 Essential Tracks from the Boxed Set..." CD I ordered yesterday says Mr.
Tambourine Man is the 1990 stereo mix. But doesn't give a year for the remix
of Turn Turn Turn (Maybe once I get the CD, the liner notes will say).

I hope this CD has a wide stereo mix of Turn Turn Turn.
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As David said, the 1987 stereo remix first appeared on Never Before and was then included on The Byrds 1990 box set.

The 20 Essential Tracks from the Boxed Set CD came out in 1992, and it has the wide stereo remix which, despite the title of this CD, was not released anywhere else before this, as far as I know. So I call it a 1992 remix, although maybe it was actually created in 1990.

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Originally posted by mjb50 mjb50 wrote:

...

@davidclark, as for the LP version, I say
listen for yourself in
headphones
. The linked examples are from US vinyl LPs but the same
effect is heard on the CD reissues.

...


That's a prime example of electronic stereo, albeit very slight. And, my
comment refered to "Turn...", while you've sent me "Tambourine".
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