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    Posted: 16 January 2006 at 9:16am
Pat, most of your entries for the 2:14 (2:16) version of "Dueling Banjos" have the remark about the hiss on the recordings; However, 2 CDs with this version have no hiss comment:

"Classic Country - the '70s Treasures"
"40 Great Country Instrumentals"

Is there considerably less hiss on these? or was this an oversight in the description? I have a few of the hissy CDs (the hiss actually runs for over a minute!) and I find that using de-hisser software hardly does anything to remove any of the massive hiss. I'll seek out one of the above CDs if they don't have the massive hiss.
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Can't speak for the hiss issue, but I do believe the stereo shorter versions made one editing error, so they aren't the actual 45 version.

One question about the mono version described as the 45 version on the K-Tel CD--seems to me that the speed/pitch is slower compared to the LP version and stereo edits. Was the actual 45 slower than the LP?
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where are the editing errors???
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Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

where are the editing errors???


I'd have to check the CD to be absolutely sure (I'm going on memory here, since I'm at work), but I believe the error occurs at around the (:39) mark of the stereo edit (the guitar/banjo sequence from (:31)-(:38) is repeated in the stereo version [perhaps with a slight modification] but not repeated in the mono version).

The mono version (from the K-Tel Country Music Classics CD) is loaded on my iPod (although I sped it up slightly to try to match the pitch of the LP version), so that's where I'm getting my times.

If someone has a copy of the stereo edit handy and can verify or refute, please do so.
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The short stereo versions do say "Neither the 45 or the LP version." Did Pat just add that?

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I'm pretty sure they were in the book like that, so I don't think he just added them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2006 at 2:57pm
Oh, okay. It was just that your wording on, "I do believe the stereo shorter versions made one editing error, so they aren't the actual 45 version," and Ed's apparent surprise, made me think this wasn't indicated in the database.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2006 at 6:29pm
Originally posted by Brian W. Brian W. wrote:

Oh, okay. It was just that your wording on, "I do believe the stereo shorter versions made one editing error, so they aren't the actual 45 version," and Ed's apparent surprise, made me think this wasn't indicated in the database.


OK, I checked the CD (I used Rhino's Have A Nice Day Volume 10)--I need someone to check the vinyl 45 (Ed?). . .

After the guitar and banjo play the "Yankee Doodle" call and response at about (:31.3), they get into the duel. As I guessed, the line that's plucked from (:38.35) to (:45.99) on the stereo edit is not present on the mono version found on the K-Tel Country Music Classics CD (for that matter, neither is the tape hiss). However, the mono version found on said CD is slower than the stereo edit (which clocks in at (2:19) because of the extra line) or the LP version--the mono version on this CD clocks in at (2:17), which I'm wondering if it should be faster.

Confused? Good. :)

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The mono version found on the K-Tel Country Music Classics is the 45 version and it is at the correct speed also (at least for the 45). I have added some additional hiss comments to other titles.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2006 at 8:44pm
Interesting--there aren't a ton of 45s where the 45 speed/pitch is slower than the LP. A few do spring to mind--"Tears Of A Clown," "Ramblin' Man" and "Key Largo" among them. Now add "Dueling Banjos" to the mix (although I think it sounds better in the LP speed personally).
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