Top 40 Music on CD Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Top 40 Music On Compact Disc > Chat Board
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - cyndi lauper "money changes everything"
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

cyndi lauper "money changes everything"

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>
Author
Message
jimct View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 07 April 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jimct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:34pm
Chuck: I'll do what I can. This is a toughie, for a couple of reasons. First, it only got to #27 BB in 2/85. In 1965, if you had a #27 BB hit, the song got TONS of radio airplay - that wasn't nearly as true by '85. I'm betting about 1/2 of the Top 40 stations in America never even PLAYED that song, and mine was among them. Its big buzz was TONS of heavy-rotation MTV play for that live video. We did strongly consider adding it, and if we did, we would've played the studio version, because I remember WE all thought Lauper's vocals were FAR weaker on the "live" version. Surprisingly, there actually aren't tons of differences between the two, if you listen carefully. We thought that Portrait was probably hawking/marketing the "Live" side: 1) To distract radio from the fact that this was the FIFTH single from her debut LP, "She's So Unusual" (after Girls Just Want To Have Fun, Time After Time, She Bop and All Through The Night,) and 2) To get people who already had the LP to also buy this 45, so her many new fans would spend even more money, for this previously-unavailable live version. All 4 of her previous 45s did great for us, but we judge each individual song on its own merits, and we'd all agreed that "Money...", in EITHER of its versions, just wasn't nearly as strong a track as the other 4 had been. On the promo 45, the studio v was on one side, and the live v was on the other, just like on the commercial 45. Ed, I believe Mr. Whitburn is correct to use the "studio" version as the "hit" side. Here's why. I know about the pic sleeve specifying the "Live" nature of the track - I have it also. And you are also correct about the earlier 45 matrix number; that's a decent (although not flawless) indicator of intended A-sides. But Ed, my first commercial 45 for "Angie" by the Rolling Stones said "Side Two" on it! ("Silver Train" was the label's intended A-side). And, my first stock copy of "Beth" by Kiss says "Side B" on it! ("Detroit Rock City" was the original intended A-side.) Does this mean that Mr. Whitburn is wrong to list "Angie" and "Beth" as the hits? Of course not. My gut here: the MTV watchers of the day consider the video's live v to be the hit, and those who discovered the track either on the radio, or by playing their LP through, consider the studio version to be the hit. The immense success of that LP totally shocked the label, and by this 5th single, much of U.S. radio had had a HUGE track record of success with it. By now, we all knew she'd caught "lightning in a bottle" with this LP. "All Through The Night", the 4th single, had those same whispers, too - all the hits on the LP were now gone - well, they weren't, and that one happened to be an especially strong song for us. As a result, the notion of "Why not go to the well a 5th time, albeit with a "live spin" to it, had its supporters at the label.
Back to Top
cmmmbase View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 04 May 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmmmbase Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2006 at 12:05am
I could see denoting it as a double "A" side with the "45" picture sleeve promoting the "live" side BUT the other side featuring an edited version of the album version. This would say to me that the label was hedging it's bets on this track. And yes, I did discover this tune by radio - my hometown didn't (and still doesn't) have cable, so no MTV for me in 1985.

Edited by cmmmbase
Back to Top
Paul Haney View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 01 April 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 34
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Haney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2006 at 6:45am
I never heard the live version on the radio back in 1984-85...and I listened to a lot of radio back then, even worked as a DJ/MD at that time. I consider the studio version to be the "hit" version.

Edited by Paul Haney
Back to Top
torcan View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 23 June 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote torcan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2006 at 7:08am
What I loved about the '80s is that there were a lot of singles from most hit albums. I loved "Money Changes Everything"...and although maybe not as strong as the other singles from the album, was still a great track.

Here in Canada there was actually a SIXTH single from "She's So Unusual". "When You Were Mine" was released with a picture sleeve and a 4:00 edit in Canada. Never heard it on the radio much, but it's out there!
Back to Top
Paul C View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 23 October 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 10
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2006 at 7:35am
I have both a U.S. and a Canadian 45, and although the U.S. 45 does not specify an 'A' or 'B' side, the Canadian 45 has 'Side One' on the live side and 'Side Two' on the studio side.

It's clear that it was the studio version that made the Billboard Hot 100, though, since the Hot 100 listed 'R. Chertoff' as the producer. Rick Chertoff produced the studio version. The live version was produced by Cyndi Lauper and Lennie Petze.
Back to Top
Underground Dub View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 10 July 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Underground Dub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 April 2007 at 9:20pm
Would anyone be able to provide a file or edit points for the studio version edit of Money Changes Everything?

I'm also looking for a recording of the Boy Blue (Remix).

Any help is much appreciated! :)
Back to Top
elcoleccionista View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 28 November 2005
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote elcoleccionista Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 April 2007 at 10:13pm
I can send you the remix of Boy Blue.
Back to Top
Underground Dub View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 10 July 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Underground Dub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 April 2007 at 8:31am
Thanks! Sent you a PM. :)
Back to Top
edtop40 View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 29 October 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2007 at 6:52pm
hey guys.....any further thoughts on which side, the studio or live, should be considered the A-side??

can we take a vote??

i vote for the "live" version as the A-side

edtop40
Back to Top
Paul Haney View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 01 April 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 34
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Haney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2007 at 6:03am
Sorry Ed, but I was there and very tuned-in to Top 40 radio at the time and I never once heard or played the live version on the radio. The only place to see/hear it was on MTV (or if you actually bought the single). I'd consider the live version to be the "video version".
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.07
Copyright ©2001-2024 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.094 seconds.