Amy Grant - "Baby Baby"

I think it'll do for now, Aaron. It's just unfortunate how the early '90s, in particular, are such a headache for collecting Top 40 music due to how many hits were released on as many as six(!) commercial single formats (vinyl 45, cassette single, maxi-cassette single, CD single, maxi-CD single, and 12" single), in addition to an album release, and record labels were clearly unconcerned with any sense of version uniformity. Contrast that to how just a few years previously, up until 1987, singles were all released on just one format, the vinyl 45 (or two at the most if there was a 12" single counterpart). But, hey, it is what it is, and we'll get it all figured out. Fortunately, things have come back around full circle, and if there's one thing to be thankful about Top 40 music in more modern times, it's the fact that most songs are now only made available in one "definitive" version due to the sharp decline in album releases, radio edits, and remixes in general!

Anyway, I'm going to hold off on further commenting on messy cases like "Baby Baby" until we have the new database design in place. Once I see the new platform in action, then I may have different thoughts and opinions on how we could possibly address these multi-format-multi-version releases going forward.

In Australia, the "hit version" was this edit of the No Getting Over You remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxG8GAdIlCE

I heard this edit (with a short instrumental intro) on Mix 106.3 a few years
ago, and it appears to have been used on the commercial 45/MC/CD
releases here.

aaronk wrote: That's why in this case I think it's probably best to stick with what the database (and book) has shown since the beginning: no designation in cases where the "official single version" (aka "45 version") is the same as the LP version.

Aaron, I agree wholeheartedly here. Thanks!

prisdeej wrote: aaronk wrote: That's why in this case I think it's probably best to stick with what the database (and book) has shown since the beginning: no designation in cases where the "official single version" (aka "45 version") is the same as the LP version. Aaron, I agree wholeheartedly here. Thanks!

I very much agree with this as well. We're just trying to figure out how best to deal with situations like "Baby Baby" in which the song is issued on multiple commercial single formats, yet at least one of them features a different version on Side A/Track 1 than the others. We'd like to have other forum members share their thoughts and opinions on this as well.

Assuming that we're sticking with a policy stating that Side A/Track 1 on a commercial 2-track single format release is considered the "official" single version, then here is what we have with "Baby Baby":

Cassette single = LP Version (A-side)
Vinyl 45 = LP version (A-side)
CD single = "7-Inch Heart in Motion Mix" (Track 1)

Therefore, "Baby Baby" is a case in which the song was issued on multiple commercial single formats, and yet at least one of them -- the commercial CD single -- features a different version as Side A/Track 1 than the others. Going back and reviewing the title notes currently listed in the database for "Baby Baby", it appears that the commercial CD single information is missing and, therefore, I suspect this is what's causing the confusion here. (I could swear, though, I thought you had mentioned info at one point, Aaron, but evidently it's now gone.)

Perhaps you might also be confusing the commercial CD single with the promo CD single, which is why I recommended just listing the contents of the promo CD single separately (or at least for Tracks 1-3 since we've established that those are the ones that got the most Top 40 radio airplay) in the title notes, along with the featured lead track on each of the individual commercial single formats (cassette single, CD single, and vinyl 45), like we've always done. I know it's a lot of information and a bit of a headache to read through, but I think this may be the only way we avoid further confusion. I'll leave it up to you to decide whether or not you think it's then necessary to make detailed comments for individual CDs ("LP, cassette single, and vinyl 45 version" vs. "CD single version").

Edited by Todd Ireland