https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 13:59:59 +0000 Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:52:59 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9806 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61020&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61020 Author: aaronk
Subject: 9806
Posted: 10 June 2022 at 7:52am

Hykker wrote: AutumnAarilyn wrote: If the title was current, you wouldn't dare put former group member adjacent to group. To me putting solo efforts by group members next to the group's section makes perfect sense.

I think what Autumn is saying here is that if it was a new title, a record store would file it where it belongs alphabetically (not with the former band), because you wouldn't want a customer to look for something and then walk out empty-handed, not knowing to look under the former band's section for a solo release.]]> Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:52:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61020&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61020 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61019&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61019 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9806
Posted: 10 June 2022 at 7:45am

I agree with Hykker, Christine Mcvie for example belongs in the Fleetwood Mac folder. Stevie Nicks on the other hand can stand by herself. Lindsey Buckingham has two-three albums that were really popular.

I mean you wouldn't put Sting with the Police folder, but Andy and Stewart are just fine in the Police folder. Depends on how big and how established an artist is.

As for current Zayn has maybe two hits and two albums. He can go in the One Direction Folder. Harry Styles on the other hand has established a huge music career and success. The other members of One Direction not so much.

So you can still do this organization for current artists.]]> Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:45:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61019&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61019 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61016&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61016 Author: Hykker
Subject: 9806
Posted: 10 June 2022 at 5:10am

Scanner wrote: I always found it odd to see dividers for Frey and Henley right after Eagles in the E section or Frida and Agnetha Faltskog right after ABBA instead of in the F section. This was particularly odd - and a bit humorous! - to me when many of those solo albums by group members were released after the artists left the group and were establishing distinct solo careers!

AutumnAarilyn wrote: If the title was current, you wouldn't dare put former group member adjacent to group. As something deep catalog it kind of makes sense especially when two or more members of the former group are involved. Stores always try to carve sections so people who are interested in A come across B.

To me putting solo efforts by group members next to the group's section makes perfect sense. Granted, Frey &
Henley were able to establish themselves as successful solo acts, Timothy B. Schmidt not so much. Likewise,
the 2 women from ABBA were one-hit wonders, why not put their solo releases where they're more likely to be
found? Have some under their own names as well, but definitely a tie in with the act that made them famous
can't hurt.

Doesn't really apply with filing stuff in a personal collection though.


Edited by Hykker]]> Fri, 10 Jun 2022 05:10:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61016&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61016 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61011&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61011 Author: AutumnAarilyn
Subject: 9806
Posted: 09 June 2022 at 2:30pm

If the title was current, you wouldn't dare put former
group member adjacent to group. As something deep catalog
it kind of makes sense especially when two or more members
of the former group are involved. Stores always try to
carve sections so people who are interested in A come
across B.]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:30:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61011&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61011 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61003&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61003 Author: Scanner
Subject: 9806
Posted: 08 June 2022 at 12:33pm

AutumnAarilyn wrote: When filing alphabetically, the key is too key everything together. In Japan, some stores put Paul McCartney's catalog after the Beatles. Fleetwood Mac side projects by one or more individual members could be cataloged together.

I saw this in many US record stores as well. I always
found it odd to see dividers for Frey and Henley right
after Eagles in the E section or Frida and Agnetha
Faltskog right after ABBA instead of in the F section.
This was particularly odd - and a bit humorous! - to me
when many of those solo albums by group members were
released after the artists left the group and were
establishing distinct solo careers!

Edited by Scanner]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2022 12:33:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61003&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61003 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61001&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61001 Author: AutumnAarilyn
Subject: 9806
Posted: 06 June 2022 at 7:00pm

Hey Scanner:

Gloria Estefan was on Miami Sound Machine's first single
and album back in 1977. They were originally known as the
Miami Latin Boys. The group decided to change the name so
Gloria could compete for awards in the female category
since she was the lead. They were competing as a group.

Youtube poster, the Jazz Shepherd and record store owner
Val Shively file by label and then catalog number. I'm
starting that it's not a bad way to file.

When filing alphabetically, the key is too key everything
together. In Japan, some stores put Paul McCartney's
catalog after the Beatles. Fleetwood Mac side projects by
one or more individual members could be cataloged
together.]]> Mon, 06 Jun 2022 19:00:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61001&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61001 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61000&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61000 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 9806
Posted: 06 June 2022 at 5:46pm

ChicagoBill wrote: I guess some of us have our own peculiarities in filing. When I had my record store, I would file Little Richard under 'Richard'. Little was just an adjective and not his name. He was not a group, either. I caught all sorts of grief. I filed 'Little Anthony & the Imperials' under 'Anthony' and 15 years later he dropped the 'Little' starting with his Avco releases. Do You file 'Big Joe Turner' before or after 'Ike & Tina Turner'? I chose 'Turner, Joe, Big' rather than 'Turner, Big Joe'. Most of you are scratching your heads. What about the 'Big Bopper'. We filed him under 'Big'. His name isn't 'Big' nor 'Bopper' so we weren't going to file him under 'Richardson' because nobody would find him. Same reason for 'Penniman' and 'Gourdine'. If 'Little Stevie Wonder' had failed to have more than just a couple of hits, would we file him under under 'Little'? I'll sit back and take whatever criticism you give me. -Bill.

As it's been stated before, most folks do this in a manner that works best for them. I have no opinion against anyone's methods.

Back when I was DJing, I needed a system that helped me find the songs as fast as possible. Especially, when they were the oldies from the 50's and 60's, (Shorter play times.)
My most "Go-To" method was identifying artists and title's by what stood out to me the most. Big Joe Turner was likely to be, "Turner, Big Joe." and others that had the word "Band" included
in the artist field was listed as "Miller, Steve - Band." Or, if I was being lazy, just "Miller, Steve Band." "Miller, Glenn and Orchestra" etc.

There were always exceptions to the rule, but I could frequently find things fast if I concentrated on what would make things easiest to find under pressure.

These days, I don't really have a formula. I have frequently just accepted whatever turns up on the computer. Unless, of course it is completely inaccurate.]]> Mon, 06 Jun 2022 17:46:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=61000&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#61000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=60999&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#60999 Author: ChicagoBill
Subject: 9806
Posted: 06 June 2022 at 3:56pm

I guess some of us have our own peculiarities in filing. When I had my record store, I would file Little Richard under
'Richard'. Little was just an adjective and not his name. He was not a group, either. I caught all sorts of grief. I
filed 'Little Anthony & the Imperials' under 'Anthony' and 15 years later he dropped the 'Little' starting with his Avco
releases. Do You file 'Big Joe Turner' before or after 'Ike & Tina Turner'? I chose 'Turner, Joe, Big' rather than
'Turner, Big Joe'. Most of you are scratching your heads. What about the 'Big Bopper'. We filed him under 'Big'. His name
isn't 'Big' nor 'Bopper' so we weren't going to file him under 'Richardson' because nobody would find him. Same reason
for 'Penniman' and 'Gourdine'. If 'Little Stevie Wonder' had failed to have more than just a couple of hits, would we
file him under under 'Little'? I'll sit back and take whatever criticism you give me. -Bill.]]> Mon, 06 Jun 2022 15:56:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=60999&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#60999 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=60992&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#60992 Author: Scanner
Subject: 9806
Posted: 05 June 2022 at 2:30pm

When an artist changes his/her/their name, I categorize
them by the identity used on most of the tracks in my
music collection. Lady A may want us to forget they were
once Lady Antebellum, but their greatest success came
with their full name and that is how I still classify
them. Although Wynonna's vinyl singles from her first
and second solo albums were credited to Wynonna Judd,
practically everything else from those and subsequent
albums were credited to just Wynonna. (The spine of her
her first CD, "Wynonna," says Wynonna Judd.) So, Wynonna
it is to me.

For groups, I classify them by the group name if the
credited lead singer is not the only lead singer (First
Edition) or if the group existed before and/or after the
credited lead singer was in the group (Supremes). If the
group (The Range, Union Station) is essentially a
credited backup band for the lead artist, I will
alphabetize by the artist (Hornsby, Krauss). I don't
ever recall seeing music released by just The Range or
Union Station...although the individual members of Union
Station such as Dan Tyminski have done solo work just as
Alison Krauss has done.

Some groups are more difficult to generalize. Miami
Sound Machine existed before Gloria Estefan joined. Yet,
I recall reading how Estefan's name was added to the "Let
It Loose" credits and Miami Sound Machine jettisoned from
the "Cuts Both Ways" credits for branding purposes which
makes me classify all MSM songs under Estefan.

Should an artist that is a regular member of a duo/group
receive credit when his/her name is included in the
artist's credits of a song? "Betcha By Golly, Wow" is by
The Stylistics Featuring Russell Tompkins, Jr. "Careless
Whisper" is by Wham! Featuring George Michael. Should
Tompkins and Michael be credited for these songs in their
respective discographies?


Edited by Scanner]]> Sun, 05 Jun 2022 14:30:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=60992&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#60992 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=60987&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#60987 Author: Hykker
Subject: 9806
Posted: 05 June 2022 at 4:48am

One question that just hit me...how does everyone deal with artists who've changed their stage name over time. One that immediately comes to mind
was Puff Daddy/P. Diddy/Diddy (and maybe another one I missed)? I guess technically Prince would qualify, but where I worked we never stopped
referring to him as Prince, nor as I suspect did much of anyone else other than his label.]]> Sun, 05 Jun 2022 04:48:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9806&PID=60987&title=alphabetizing-artists-by-name#60987