https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:26:35 +0000 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:36:05 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=7300 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300&PID=36957&title=manfred-mann-do-wah-diddy-diddy#36957 Author: davidclark
Subject: 7300
Posted: 05 March 2013 at 7:36pm

great catch, Markie. As soon as I listened to a true mono version (I had
never had one in my collection), the different edit leaped out at me.

Another difference I hear is the very first note - the stereo edit starts "hard"
while the mono version starts "soft". Do you know what I am trying to
describe?

Pat, I agree "stereo edit" seems appropriate.]]> Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:36:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300&PID=36957&title=manfred-mann-do-wah-diddy-diddy#36957 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300&PID=36946&title=manfred-mann-do-wah-diddy-diddy#36946 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 7300
Posted: 05 March 2013 at 8:37am

The "Manfred Mann Album" on Ascot 16015 states stereo on the album cover but it is (E). This was the first LP to include Do Wah Diddy Diddy so all stereo appearances on cd should be listed as either "stereo recreations" or "stereo remix" or even "stereo edit" don't you think? I lean toward "stereo edit" myself.

Edited by Pat Downey]]> Tue, 05 Mar 2013 08:37:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300&PID=36946&title=manfred-mann-do-wah-diddy-diddy#36946 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300&PID=36938&title=manfred-mann-do-wah-diddy-diddy#36938 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 7300
Posted: 04 March 2013 at 6:35pm

MMathews wrote: Now, i'm not sure how one might label the stereo mix, that is I am not sure if it was the actual "LP Version" or if it was first mixed to stereo for a "best-of" type album. My earliest stereo vinyl dated to late 60's UK Best-of album on EMI-Odeon.

Nice catch, Mark!

On my stereo copy of the Manfreds' first U.S. best-of (Manfred Mann's Greatest Hits, United Artists 6551), DWDD matches what you refer to as the "45 version." This track is (E), with some inconsistent panning to the right on the group vocals (not Paul Jones' lead) but only through the first chorus. The panning gimmick was abandoned at that point.    

"45 version" might be an apt description for the track on this album, because it definitely sounds like it was sourced from a vinyl 45.     ]]> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:35:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300&PID=36938&title=manfred-mann-do-wah-diddy-diddy#36938 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300&PID=36931&title=manfred-mann-do-wah-diddy-diddy#36931 Author: Hykker
Subject: 7300
Posted: 04 March 2013 at 1:48pm

Which version was on the mono album?

]]> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:48:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300&PID=36931&title=manfred-mann-do-wah-diddy-diddy#36931 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300&PID=36923&title=manfred-mann-do-wah-diddy-diddy#36923 Author: MMathews
Subject: 7300
Posted: 03 March 2013 at 5:00pm

Hi all,

I noticed the database doesn't differentiate between the
stereo and mono versions, but i noticed a difference that
may indicate some cd's should have the comment "45
version".
It is a minor detail that makes the differences, but
nonetheless it is there. It only involves ONE drum beat.   

I'd long forgotten this difference. I hadn't heard the
mono version since the mid-80's. (thanks, Ron!)

OK - The MONO 45 version has a loud organ note and drum
beat that cut in at exactly 1:42.   It is an edit. The
edit cuts off the word "of" from the bridge part where he
sings "i told her all the things i'd been dreamin'
ooo[cut]..now we're together.."

It dates back to the unedited original version. As some
may know, in the original, there is a trippy psychedelic
organ break that starts at 1:28 and runs to 1:42.
At some point early on, someone wisely decided that break
sounded nothing like the rest of the song, and replaced
the break with a 2nd copy of the bridge that starts at
:50.
They simply spliced that bridge in at 1:28 and it splices
BACK to the ending at 1:42 to include the final drum beat
of the organ break (and it's reverb trail is also when he
sings "now we're together").

NOW - when they mixed it for stereo, they very
efficiently mixed it in its "hit" version, and put a 2nd
copy of the first bridge right at 1:28 to replicate the
45.
Only difference is, they mixed it special from the
multi's
to transition to the line "now we're together" - so there
is no "organ+drum beat" resulting from the edit, they
instead edit on the word "now". So we never hear the
last beat of the organ break, and there also is no reverb
tail from that final beat.

Long story for such a short difference!

Now, i'm not sure how one might label the stereo mix,
that is I am not sure if it was the actual "LP Version"
or if it was first mixed to stereo for a "best-of" type
album. My earliest stereo vinyl dated to late 60's UK
Best-of album on EMI-Odeon.

But the "45 version" is definitely that, since only that
edit was on the 45. I presume all database entries that
are in mono are the 45 version, with the exception of the
ones marked "unedited version which is not the hit
version".

MM





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