https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 22 Apr 2026 13:57:39 +0000 Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:58:56 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6078 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=30610&title=elton-john-the-one#30610 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 6078
Posted: 20 June 2011 at 2:58pm

edtop40 wrote: paul, can i send you a copy of the cassingle for you to check your machine??.....

I don't think that's really necessary. Like I said, I think we've just got a defective copy. Whoever timed it back in 1992 got a run time of (5:42) and that was on a third tape deck. I had a few other cassingles that had this same problem back in the day. ]]> Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:58:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=30610&title=elton-john-the-one#30610 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=30608&title=elton-john-the-one#30608 Author: edtop40
Subject: 6078
Posted: 20 June 2011 at 1:07pm

paul, can i send you a copy of the cassingle for you to check your machine??.....]]> Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:07:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=30608&title=elton-john-the-one#30608 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=30600&title=elton-john-the-one#30600 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 6078
Posted: 20 June 2011 at 4:47am

Ed, thanks for timing your copy! I timed our copy on 2 different tape decks that have both been perfect on numerous other cassingles. I'd guess that our copy is defective and simply runs too fast. I've seen it happen a few other times in the past. I'm going to correct the running time to (5:52) in our database for the next Pop Annual (which should be out later this year).]]> Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:47:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=30600&title=elton-john-the-one#30600 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=30585&title=elton-john-the-one#30585 Author: edtop40
Subject: 6078
Posted: 19 June 2011 at 6:22pm

i just timed my cassingle of "the one" and it is exactly 5:52, just like the full length cd version........no where near the 5:40 length paul haney references......can someone else check the run time of their cassingle.....paul, can you check again if your pitch control was compromised?.....if not, then we must have two pressings of the cassingle with no way of knowing the differences because, as far as i know, unlike 45's there is no place for run out groove type etching.........very unusual....

Edited by edtop40]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:22:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=30585&title=elton-john-the-one#30585 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29734&title=elton-john-the-one#29734 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6078
Posted: 09 April 2011 at 10:27pm

I was just able to dissect the short versions of "The One." As expected, the "Early Faded" version is merely an early fade of the full length version. The "Short Edit" fades in the same place as the "Early Faded" version, but the intro is cut in half, too; it removes the section from approximately 0:05.6 to 0:18.3.]]> Sat, 09 Apr 2011 22:27:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29734&title=elton-john-the-one#29734 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29727&title=elton-john-the-one#29727 Author: jimct
Subject: 6078
Posted: 09 April 2011 at 6:59am

aaronk wrote: The database says DJ 45 copies ran 4:30 and 4:50, but it doesn't list promo CD info. At the least, there was a 1-track promo that had the full album version and a printed time of 5:49. The shorter versions may have been issued on another promo CD.

Aaron,
your theory is exactly correct. We got in two different promo CD singles
for this, and here are the particulars:

-Elton John-"The One" (MCA5P-2263)
1-(non-described version) (listed 5:49; actual 5:51)


-Elton John-"The One" (MCA5P-2302)
1-Short Edit (listed 4:30; actual 4:33)
2-Early Faded (listed 4:50; actual 4:46)

I will shortly shoot out both cuts on the 2-track promo to Aaron, for his
further research/evaluation.]]> Sat, 09 Apr 2011 06:59:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29727&title=elton-john-the-one#29727 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29219&title=elton-john-the-one#29219 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6078
Posted: 10 February 2011 at 8:30pm

Thanks, Paul. So, do we have a case of "LP speed" and "45 speed"? Is it worth noting the near-10-second timing difference between what was on the single and the database CDs?]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:30:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29219&title=elton-john-the-one#29219 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29215&title=elton-john-the-one#29215 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 6078
Posted: 10 February 2011 at 2:18pm

Hykker wrote: Paul Haney wrote: I've found several cassette single timings from the 1990s where we were off by a few seconds. I've corrected dozens of them over the past few years. Is it the singles themselves that are off, or was it the deck itself? I've noticed a considerable variation in speed from one cassette deck to another.

I wasn't timing the singles back in the cassette era, so I can't say for sure why some of them were off.]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:18:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29215&title=elton-john-the-one#29215 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29214&title=elton-john-the-one#29214 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 6078
Posted: 10 February 2011 at 2:16pm

Okay, I just re-timed the cassette single of "The One" by Elton John and got a timing of (5:40). I tried it on the 2 cassette decks available to me (both of which have been perfect in the past) and got the same result. I compared it to the version on the CD album and the cassette does run slightly faster. In fact, the album version sounded slightly slower than what I remembered hearing on the radio back in 1992.

If anybody else has the cassette single and comes up with a different time, please post it.]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:16:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29214&title=elton-john-the-one#29214 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29211&title=elton-john-the-one#29211 Author: Hykker
Subject: 6078
Posted: 10 February 2011 at 9:47am

Paul Haney wrote: I've found several cassette single timings from the 1990s where we were off by a few seconds. I've corrected dozens of them over the past few years.

Is it the singles themselves that are off, or was it the deck itself? I've noticed a considerable variation in speed from one cassette deck to another.]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:47:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6078&PID=29211&title=elton-john-the-one#29211