https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 17:32:17 +0000 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 09:37:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5896 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27747&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27747 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5896
Posted: 09 September 2010 at 9:37am

Yes, I don't think it's intentional either. I'm leaning toward bad tape head alignment, too. It's doubtful that the full length album is any better, but you never know. I hope someone on the board has it and can report back.

What about the clicking sound at the end? That doesn't sound intentional to me either. Is it a related problem, perhaps, caused by a bad tape machine?]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2010 09:37:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27747&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27747 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27746&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27746 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 5896
Posted: 09 September 2010 at 7:07am

Before I listened to the track, I also wondered if it were deliberate. But the times where the L/R summation gets warbly (see first post) don't correspond to real sections in the song. It gets wacky at random times, which leads me to think that it's unintentional.]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:07:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27746&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27746 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27745&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27745 Author: Hykker
Subject: 5896
Posted: 09 September 2010 at 5:46am

Brian W. wrote: Is it possible this was mixed in Q-sound?

I was wondering the same thing myself, or maybe it was a poorly-executed (but intentional) effect.
I once worked at a station where the production director would play with phasing to create stereo effects...his response when it was pointed out that there was mono phase cancellation was that "no one listens in mono anymore". He didn't last long.

Edited by Hykker]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2010 05:46:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27745&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27745 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27744&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27744 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 5896
Posted: 09 September 2010 at 12:58am

Is it possible this was mixed in Q-sound?]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:58:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27744&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27744 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27743&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27743 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 5896
Posted: 08 September 2010 at 9:56pm

I don't have the full LP so I can't answer that question. I got rid of it once I bought the CD single.]]> Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:56:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27743&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27743 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27742&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27742 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 5896
Posted: 08 September 2010 at 7:32pm

Checked the versions on Hitmakers Vol. 126 and Top Hits USA RH40, and both have the problem you described.

Sounds like some badly aligned tape heads - almost surprising to hear that as late as 1996, when the world was moving to recording straight to hard drive.

Does anyone have the full LP? (First Band On the Moon? I forget the title...)]]> Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:32:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27742&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27742 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27738&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27738 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5896
Posted: 08 September 2010 at 8:05am

It's VERY noticeable when you fold it to mono. It sounded terrible on mono radios. I can hear only a very slight change in fidelity during those passages, although I probably wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't know which spots were problematic.

Does the full length album have the clicking on the last note and the phase issues, or was this only a problem on the un-segued single copies?]]> Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:05:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27738&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27738 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27736&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27736 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 5896
Posted: 08 September 2010 at 7:54am

IIRC, another issue about this song is that on the album, the song abruptly gets cut off before the last note fades out because the song goes immediately into another song. So I, too, bought the import CD single that Aaron and Jim refer to above. That one doesn't cut off abruptly - the last note fades out naturally and goes longer than the album version.

I never noticed any muddy/swishy/phase issues when hearing this in stereo. Aaron, is it only noticeable when you fold down to mono, or does it also get muddy in those spots on the regular stereo version?]]> Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:54:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27736&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27736 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27731&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27731 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5896
Posted: 07 September 2010 at 11:35pm

Actually, Jim, just one minute ago, I pulled out my import CD single, and it has the same problem. My other source is a Promo Only radio compilation, which is likely just a dub of the promo CD. Thanks for the offer, though.

Edited by aaronk]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:35:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27731&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27731 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27730&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27730 Author: jimct
Subject: 5896
Posted: 07 September 2010 at 11:32pm

Aaron, I am not very optomistic that my "Lovefool" promo CD single will sound any better than what you already own, but let me know if you'd like to hear what I've got, just for comparison's sake.]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:32:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5896&PID=27730&title=cardigans-lovefool-fidelity-issues#27730