https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 16 May 2026 17:29:37 +0000 Wed, 03 Jan 2018 11:01:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4141 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48755&title=careless-whisper-wham#48755 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 4141
Posted: 03 January 2018 at 11:01am

aaronk wrote: Jody, that's the 45 version you're describing. It starts with a drum fill and then goes into the sax solo. The drum fill is unique to the 45 version, so you can't simply edit the beginning off the LP version to create it. And yes, that part is a repeat of the second verse but with stripped down instrumentation.

Right. The drum track is on the LP, but with the tail end of the keyboard mixed in. I've heard a station start with the sax solo (but on an eighth beat before the downbeat; as soon as the sax starts basically). Probably trying to mimic the 45-rpm disc.

Thanks Aaron.
:)
]]> Wed, 03 Jan 2018 11:01:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48755&title=careless-whisper-wham#48755 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48701&title=careless-whisper-wham#48701 Author: aaronk
Subject: 4141
Posted: 14 December 2017 at 1:52am

Jody, that's the 45 version you're describing. It starts with a drum fill
and then goes into the sax solo. The drum fill is unique to the 45
version, so you can't simply edit the beginning off the LP version to
create it. And yes, that part is a repeat of the second verse but with
stripped down instrumentation. ]]> Thu, 14 Dec 2017 01:52:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48701&title=careless-whisper-wham#48701 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48688&title=careless-whisper-wham#48688 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 4141
Posted: 11 December 2017 at 6:22pm

Wasn't there a rendition of the second verse, and an instrumental section removed from the beginning on the DJ track? I always heard it start with the sax solo on the air.
]]> Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:22:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48688&title=careless-whisper-wham#48688 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48639&title=careless-whisper-wham#48639 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 4141
Posted: 24 November 2017 at 6:14am

Underground Dub wrote: It does appear on the 1986 compilation Gold & Platinum Volume 2 (Realm Records), so it could have been made by them to accommodate more songs on that release.

IIRC, lots of songs on those Gold & Platinum CDs were faded early.]]> Fri, 24 Nov 2017 06:14:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48639&title=careless-whisper-wham#48639 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48632&title=careless-whisper-wham#48632 Author: Underground Dub
Subject: 4141
Posted: 22 November 2017 at 11:21am

There's a 3:59 edit of "Careless Whisper" that I've heard many times over the years. I always assumed it was an official DJ fade but I'm unable to find it on anything released by Wham! or their label.

It does appear on the 1986 compilation Gold & Platinum Volume 2 (Realm Records), so it could have been made by them to accommodate more songs on that release.]]> Wed, 22 Nov 2017 11:21:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=48632&title=careless-whisper-wham#48632 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29229&title=careless-whisper-wham#29229 Author: Hykker
Subject: 4141
Posted: 14 February 2011 at 9:11am

Steve Sharp wrote: I remember Sony being one of the labels that for a while was experimenting with ways to make a CD unrippable, and one of the ways was to put some kind of notched filter in the audio. Could what you're experiencing be from a disc that was part of this experiment?

I thought the notch was somewhere around 2-3000Hz (though ISTR this dated back to when vinyl still ruled). The theory behind it was that tape recorders would be looking for this notch and if audio was not present it wouldn't record. This frequency range was chosen because nearly all material would have audio in that range. Sony claimed that the notch was so narrow as to not be audible.
I wasn't aware that any such recordings ever made it into production.

You'd think that any copy protection scheme for CDs would be in the digital realm (ie-bits set or not in headers)]]> Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:11:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29229&title=careless-whisper-wham#29229 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29228&title=careless-whisper-wham#29228 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 4141
Posted: 14 February 2011 at 8:43am

Is the high-pitched hum the same thing I hear on Peter
Gabriel's "Sledgehammer" and ABC's "How To Be A
Millionaire"?

My (rather feeble) understanding of that distinctive
sound is that it's an artifact of some of the early
digital recording process. I believe that for those
tracks, the vocals were recorded on analog tape, and the
rest of the instruments were recorded digitally. (Don't
know why.) On the ABC track, I remember hearing the
high-pitched hum except for the guitar solo/break, where
it's absent. (It's been 20+ years since I listened to
the track specifically for this artifact, so I may be
remembering incorrectly...)

It's very possible that "Careless Whisper" was recorded
the same way, since it's in the same time frame.]]> Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:43:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29228&title=careless-whisper-wham#29228 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29227&title=careless-whisper-wham#29227 Author: Steve Sharp
Subject: 4141
Posted: 14 February 2011 at 2:38am

I remember Sony being one of the labels that for a while was experimenting with ways to make a CD unrippable, and one of the ways was to put some kind of notched filter in the audio. Could what you're experiencing be from a disc that was part of this experiment?]]> Mon, 14 Feb 2011 02:38:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29227&title=careless-whisper-wham#29227 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29184&title=careless-whisper-wham#29184 Author: NightAire
Subject: 4141
Posted: 08 February 2011 at 11:55am

Aaron,

LOL... yes, that's exactly the sort of experience I've had. :)]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:55:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29184&title=careless-whisper-wham#29184 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29182&title=careless-whisper-wham#29182 Author: aaronk
Subject: 4141
Posted: 08 February 2011 at 7:01am

Without having a chance to get my disc out, I think I know what you
are talking about. It's a very high pitched hum. I've heard it on other
recordings, too, on occasion.

I'm not sure the cause on Careless Whisper, but I have a funny
cassette story that might be relevant. Once in a while, when I would
dub a cassette I would get a very high pitched hum when playing back
the dubbed copy. If I dubbed in high
speed, the hum was quite audible and not as high pitched. As it turns
out, the deck was placed too close to an old TV, and whenever the
TV was on, it produced the high frequency hum, which was getting
picked up by the tape deck during recording.

Edited by aaronk]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 07:01:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4141&PID=29182&title=careless-whisper-wham#29182