https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 16:17:55 +0000 Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:27:02 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3973 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=38860&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#38860 Author: 995wlol
Subject: 3973
Posted: 17 August 2013 at 1:27pm

crapfromthepast wrote: I also suspect that the 1996 remaster of Quarterflash or the 1997 disc Harden My Heart Best Of is mastered really loud, and that the two following discs use the same analog transfer of the loud disc: EMI's Retro Lunchbox Gooey Love Songs (1997) Simitar's Number Ones Classic Rock (1998)

Ron, fortunately, this is not the case. There is no compression added to any of the tracks from "Harden My Heart" best-of disc. I was pleasantly surprised when I picked it up to get "Take Me To Heart" and "Take Another Picture" on CD.

Edited by 995wlol]]> Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:27:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=38860&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#38860 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=38833&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#38833 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 3973
Posted: 14 August 2013 at 7:40pm

The oldest version I have of the LP length is on the fabulous 4-CD promo set Geffen Records A Musical History Of The Decade Vol. 1 (1990). The sound is quite nice. I suspect that this uses the same analog transfer as the '80s-era Quarterflash CD, but that disc is pretty hard to come by, and I can't confirm. There are other discs that use the same analog transfer as the Geffen disc:

• Sandstone's Cosmopolitan Vol. 4 (1992; clips a tiny bit)
• Cema's Greatest Hits Of The '80s Vol. 1 Turbo Mania (1994; differently EQ'd digital clone)

There's a rather poor-sounding, high-tape-generation analog transfer on JCI's Only Rock 'N Roll 1980-1984 (1994). There are other discs that use the same analog transfer as Only R&R:

• Swaitek's 50-CD promo The A List Disc 13 (1994; fades a few seconds early and no tape hiss on the fade)
• Madacy's Rock On 1982 (1996)

(I suspect that the above batch, including Only R&R use the same analog transfer as some 1994-or-earlier disc, since I don't think Only R&R had any new analog transfers.)

I also suspect that the 1996 remaster of Quarterflash or the 1997 disc Harden My Heart Best Of is mastered really loud, and that the two following discs use the same analog transfer of the loud disc:

• EMI's Retro Lunchbox Gooey Love Songs (1997)
• Simitar's Number Ones Classic Rock (1998)

Now, on to the 45, which is an early fade of the LP length.

The first disc to include the 45 length was Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1982 (1992). Sound is superb, as is the case of just about all the tracks on the Billboard CDs. Plenty of other discs that use the same analog transfer as Billboard:

• Time-Life's 2-CD Rock Dreams (1993)
• Warner Special Products' 2-CD Rockin' USA (1994)
• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 5 1982 (1994; differently EQ'd digital clone that has added compression - avoid)
• Warner Special Products' 2-CD Punk (1996; since when is Quarterflash considered punk?)

There's a different analog transfer for Rhino's 7-CD Like Omigod (2002). It looks like Rhino went back to a good-sounding source tape of the LP length, and redid the fade. The fade here is shaped a little different than the earlier Billboard disc.

Overall, for the LP length, I recommend Geffen Records A Musical History Of The Decade Vol. 1 (1990), or any that use the same analog transfer.

For the 45 length, I recommend Billboard Top Hits 1982 (1992).]]> Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:40:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=38833&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#38833 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27189&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27189 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3973
Posted: 22 July 2010 at 7:43am

Pat, I was actually speaking in general terms, and I have modified my post for clarification.]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:43:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27189&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27189 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27187&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27187 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 3973
Posted: 21 July 2010 at 5:21pm

Why does everyone refer to this song as a "45 version" as it is simply an early fade of the LP?]]> Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:21:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27187&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27187 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27186&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27186 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3973
Posted: 21 July 2010 at 12:50pm

There are a handful of cases in the database where, for whatever the reason, the reader has to draw conclusions based on the notes (run time) next to the song title. This appears to be one of those cases. I would presume that in these cases you are getting either the 45 or LP version/length (depending on the run time) unless the CD specifically says "neither."

It would actually be very helpful if Pat was able to add descriptions in those cases to avoid any guesswork. It would also make the database more consistent, since it's usually always labeled with every other 45/LP distinction.

Edited by aaronk]]> Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:50:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27186&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27186 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27185&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27185 Author: 995wlol
Subject: 3973
Posted: 21 July 2010 at 12:39pm

Thanks for the replies. I'm still not clear as to whether the versions in the database that run from 3:33 to 3:35 are the 45/dj version, as they have no description. Based on the run-times, they would appear to be the 45/DJ version. Is this the case?]]> Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:39:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27185&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27185 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27181&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27181 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 3973
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 7:46pm

My dj copy of Harden My Heart states and runs (3:36) and is an early fade of the LP even though the 45 record label states "edit".]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:46:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27181&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27181 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27164&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27164 Author: KentT
Subject: 3973
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 10:01am

My Promo 45 is 3:33 and is noted as an Edit on the label. Flip side is a mono fold down version which also runs 3:33. There may have been a later pressing with a longer playing time.

Edited by KentT]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:01:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27164&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27164 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27161&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27161 Author: 995wlol
Subject: 3973
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 6:45am

There are a number of database entries for "Harden My Heart" that show a 3:33 running time, but do not indicate that they are the 45 version. The database notes show that the 45 ran 3:36. Is there some significant difference that makes the 3:33 version different than the 45?]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:45:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=27161&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#27161 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=17791&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#17791 Author: abagon
Subject: 3973
Posted: 25 July 2008 at 11:58pm

My commercial 45's actual running time is (3:36) -very near to 3:37- , the listed time is also "3:36". (Geffen GEF 49824)]]> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:58:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3973&PID=17791&title=harden-my-heart-quarterflash#17791