https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 22 Apr 2026 05:45:50 +0000 Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:41:10 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3769 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=42250&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#42250 Author: 80smusicfreak
Subject: 3769
Posted: 30 September 2014 at 8:41pm

sriv94 wrote: The 45 is not a fade, it is an edit--although I'm not sure how seamless it is (it sounds like there was some sort of trickeration to accomplish it, like maybe editing off the downbeat instead of on it or something like that).

Thanks for the assist, sriv94!

eric_a wrote: For most of the 1980s, CDs were limited to 74 minutes, following the original spec. Better technology allowed discs to approach 80 minutes, at least by the early '90s. I remember being surprised that Michael Jackson's Dangerous (1991) ran close to 80 minutes. Was this the first to push the limits?

Yes, I've always known there was a change in spec at some point, but not sure exactly when. However, you'd think when that change occurred, Warner Bros. would've re-done this CD, considering the multi-platinum status of the act in question - just as they did for the CD of Prince's 1999 (another 2-LP set that initially had space issues when first released on a single CD back in the '80s)...]]> Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:41:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=42250&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#42250 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=42248&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#42248 Author: eric_a
Subject: 3769
Posted: 30 September 2014 at 8:17pm

80smusicfreak wrote: I assume this was done in order to cram the entire 2-LP set onto just one 80-minute CD??? (Actually, if the timings given on Discogs are accurate, that would've made the CD only 73 minutes in length, so there still should've been enough room left for the LP version, which would've added less than two minutes more.)

For most of the 1980s, CDs were limited to 74 minutes,
following the original spec. Better technology allowed
discs to approach 80 minutes, at least by the early '90s.
I remember being surprised that Michael Jackson's
Dangerous (1991) ran close to 80 minutes. Was this the
first to push the limits?

Edited by eric_a]]> Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:17:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=42248&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#42248 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=42232&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#42232 Author: sriv94
Subject: 3769
Posted: 28 September 2014 at 2:09pm

The 45 is not a fade, it is an edit--although I'm not sure how seamless it is (it sounds like there was some sort of trickeration to accomplish it, like
maybe editing off the downbeat instead of on it or something like that).]]> Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:09:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=42232&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#42232 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=42227&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#42227 Author: 80smusicfreak
Subject: 3769
Posted: 28 September 2014 at 1:50pm

I've never owned this song's original parent album, Tusk, on CD. According to the on-line database, original CD pressings of Tusk on Warner Bros. 3350 substituted the shorter (4:34) 45 version of "Sara" in place of the (6:28) LP version that was on the LP/cassette/8-track. I assume this was done in order to cram the entire 2-LP set onto just one 80-minute CD??? (Actually, if the timings given on Discogs are accurate, that would've made the CD only 73 minutes in length, so there still should've been enough room left for the LP version, which would've added less than two minutes more.) Or were there second (later) pressings of the LP & cassette that made the same switch, so when Warner Bros. put out the CD, they were simply duplicating those formats???

Also, is the 45 version an edit or remix of the LP version??? Or perhaps this is even one of those examples where Pat uses the "version" designator in the database even though it's actually just an early fade, like w/ "Owner of a Lonely Heart", "Slow Ride", "Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel", etc. (as aaronk pointed out he sometimes does)??? No need for a complete dissection, though... :-)]]> Sun, 28 Sep 2014 13:50:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=42227&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#42227 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=21057&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#21057 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3769
Posted: 16 February 2009 at 11:47pm

Seems pretty seamless. Check your Pando.]]> Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:47:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=21057&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#21057 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=21053&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#21053 Author: edtop40
Subject: 3769
Posted: 16 February 2009 at 7:23pm

paul/aaron/john.....is it possible to tack on the last 0:03 of the 6:21 full length cd/lp version to the 4:34 45 version and effectively re-create the true vinyl 4:37 45 version??...i just sent u 3 the 3 versions for your review.....thx edtop40

Edited by edtop40]]> Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:23:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=21053&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#21053 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769&PID=17198&title=sara-fleetwood-mac#17198 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3769
Posted: 26 June 2008 at 10:45pm

The printed and actual commercial 45 run time for Fleetwood Mac's "Sara" is 4:37. (This info comes courtesy of my good friend Jim a.k.a. "jimct".) The reason I post this information is because the two CDs in the database containing the 45 version only run 4:34.
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