https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 18:58:01 +0000 Tue, 06 May 2008 17:25:52 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3376 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15979&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15979 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3376
Posted: 06 May 2008 at 5:25pm

You raise some good questions here, Greg... And as it now turns out, Pat has entered digital single info for "Beautiful Soul" in the database.]]> Tue, 06 May 2008 17:25:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15979&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15979 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15838&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15838 Author: 80smusicfreak
Subject: 3376
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:54pm

I'm not taking sides here, because I don't know precisely when "Beautiful Soul" was released as a digital single, but this controversy begs the following: If Pat is right, and the (3:15) edit of the song wasn't released as a digital single until AFTER it fell off the charts - and therefore, no mention of it will be made in the database - what about commercial (physical) singles that are known to exist in more than one form, w/ the same label/catalog no.??? For example, jimct just revived the old thread discussing Firefall's 1978 hit, "Strange Way", a single that is now known to exist commercially in at least two forms - (3:22) and (3:48), even though all labels apparently state "(3:50)". Can we determine which one was available in retail stores while the song was on the charts in late '78/early '79??? If so, then shouldn't the other be excluded from the database - i.e., dismissed as a single version??? Or is it always assumed that BOTH versions of such older singles were available while the song was still on the charts???]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:54:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15838&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15838 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15818&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15818 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3376
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 11:02am

The (3:15) version was available when the song was on the charts. At the time, I was putting together content for our iTunes store, and the Radio Edit of "Beautiful Soul" was included in the Radio Disney store.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 11:02:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15818&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15818 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15817&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15817 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 3376
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 11:01am

Pat Downey wrote: I don't believe there was a digital single available at the time this song charted

It appears there was. Itunes lists the release date for the digital single as October 19, 2004. But Billboard wasn't yet incorporating digital sales into the Hot 100 at the time it was released (though it peaked on the first week sales were included), so maybe that's why Whitburn doesn't list it.

Edited by Brian W.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 11:01:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15817&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15817 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15807&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15807 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 3376
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 6:42am

I don't believe there was a digital single available at the time this song charted so no I don't feel that the (3:15) version should be considered the US 45 version.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 06:42:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15807&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15807 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15805&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15805 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 3376
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 2:04am

Pat Downey wrote: There could have been a dj edit running (3:15) but I guess this was not the commercial single.

The 3:15 DJ edit is the commercial single. Since there was (and is) a commercial digital single, shouldn't that be considered the "45 version"?

]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 02:04:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15805&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15805 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15794&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15794 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3376
Posted: 30 April 2008 at 12:34am

I have a DJ copy on Hollywood Records (PRCD-11697), and it has the (3:15) Radio Edit as track 1. Track 2 is the (3:29) Album Version, and the last track is a ten-second call out hook.]]> Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:34:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15794&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15794 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15781&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15781 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 3376
Posted: 29 April 2008 at 7:30pm

Brian, that is interesting that you found a single version as Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Singles book lists this song as an album track only release. There could have been a dj edit running (3:15) but I guess this was not the commercial single. Jim do you have a dj cd single for this song? ]]> Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:30:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15781&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15781 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15764&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15764 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 3376
Posted: 29 April 2008 at 2:27am

The stand-alone single is still on iTunes and MusicGiants. The single version is called Radio Edit. I just bought it, and the actual run time is 3:15.]]> Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:27:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15764&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15764 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15760&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15760 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3376
Posted: 28 April 2008 at 11:21pm

I just looked at the track list for that soundtrack, and it's showing the run time as 3:54. This is 20 seconds longer than the album version, although the online sample sounds like the same mix. Perhaps this is some sort of extended version on the soundtrack.

I can provide a little extra info on the song since our station (Radio Disney) was the first to play it. The boy band Dreamstreet had broken up, leaving Jesse to do his own thing. His manager sent us an independent release with four or five cuts on it, and one of them was an early mix of "Beautiful Soul." Radio Disney decided to add the record, seeing potential in the young Jesse. The song immediately skyrocketed to the top of our request list, and our record label, Hollywood Records, immediately signed him. When the album was being produced, "Beautiful Soul" was slightly remixed and released to top 40 radio. At that point, we stopped playing the original mix and started playing the new mix.]]> Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:21:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3376&PID=15760&title=jesse-mccartney-omission#15760