https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 03 May 2026 12:25:47 +0000 Fri, 04 Mar 2022 05:54:53 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2574 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=60372&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#60372 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 2574
Posted: 04 March 2022 at 5:54am

davidclark wrote: This has got me wondering, is that "The ABC Collection" mix the one that turned up on Rhino's "Anthology"?

Regarding "Midnight Confessions", it seems 'The ABC
Collection' has the same version as 'Anthology' with the
exception of 'The ABC Collection' has a stick tap in front
of Carol Kaye's opening bass line.

Andy ]]> Fri, 04 Mar 2022 05:54:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=60372&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#60372 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=60353&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#60353 Author: davidclark
Subject: 2574
Posted: 02 March 2022 at 3:24am

Here's reviving an old thread!

Bill, to follow up with your post 2007 October 18 about The Grass Roots
"Midnight Confessions", you state the mix on "The ABC Collection" is different
from 1971 "Their 16 Greatest His" LP, and that the "The ABC Collection" mix is
on the Vintage Music CD. When I compared "Their 16 Greatest His" and
"Vintage Music", they are the same version. This has got me wondering, is that
"The ABC Collection" mix the one that turned up on Rhino's "Anthology"?

Edited by davidclark]]> Wed, 02 Mar 2022 03:24:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=60353&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#60353 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=21887&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#21887 Author: Bill Cahill
Subject: 2574
Posted: 04 April 2009 at 11:09am

Back to Sweat Pea:

All CD issues are either LP length or LP version depending on your point of view.

Argument for LP length: Single has a label and run time of 2:18 with a longer fade. 8 seconds longer than the LP.

Argument for LP version: The single has a good amount of reverb on the vocal that you don't hear on the LP version, also, the second harmony vocal that you can hear on the LP version can barely be heard on the 45. I think it's there but only to be felt, not heard. ]]> Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:09:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=21887&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#21887 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12063&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12063 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 2574
Posted: 19 October 2007 at 5:08pm

Gary Mack wrote: Really? How'd the mono mix escape the great ABC/Dunhill/Dot/MCA tape purge? You sure it's not the reverb-added stereo version summed to mono?

Not ALL ABC tapes were thrown out, but the bulk of them were. It's possible they pulled the song off some various artists mono lp reel or that a mono tommy roe lp master still existed or the 45 master if it still existed. IIRC Bill Inglot did the tape research for that cd and went with the mono--he wouldn't have used a mono'd down stereo source, and even said he went with the original mono mix because according to him the stereo was a different version, but i dont remember hearing any differences beyond a mix difference. It's definitely a tape source for the song....they could've also used a tape source from overseas, as i know it was pressed up in many countries (and Universal has or had vaults in France and Germany at least, that I know of). ]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:08:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12063&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12063 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12060&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12060 Author: Gary Mack
Subject: 2574
Posted: 19 October 2007 at 4:33pm

TomDiehl1 wrote: I just checked my mp3s -- the version of Sheila off Tommy Roe's Greatest Hits cd is mono (yes -- 45 version), the only other version I still have as an mp3 has the drums mostly centered, sometimes panning to the right a little bit, acoustic guitar is left, electric guitar is right, background vocals are right. Don't hear an organ on this song at all....i didn't like the other mix i had heard of the song so i didn't end up keeping a copy of it....stupid me, such things could always come in handy, as i've learned.

Really? How'd the mono mix escape the great ABC/Dunhill/Dot/MCA tape purge? You sure it's not the reverb-added stereo version summed to mono?

GM ]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:33:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12060&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12060 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12059&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12059 Author: jimct
Subject: 2574
Posted: 19 October 2007 at 3:47pm

Back around 1960, Tommy Roe released two singles on the "Judd" label:

-Judd 1018: Caveman/I Gotta Girl
-Judd 1022: Shiela/Pretty Girl

One of my best friends inherited his older cousin's 45 collection, and she'd bought the 45 after hearing it on local radio in 1962. Strangely, the 45 she was sold in CT then was the JUDD 45, which actually mis-spells the song title as "Shelia". I borrowed and dubbed this Judd 45, and although similar, it is NOT the same take featured on the 1962 ABC-Paramount 10329 single, b/w "Save Your Kisses."]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:47:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12059&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12059 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12056&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12056 Author: jrjr
Subject: 2574
Posted: 19 October 2007 at 1:00pm

on the stereo version of "sweet pea" from MCA's VM, the vocals are hard to one side... on the varese disc the vocal is not centered, but rather mixed to both channels on a very slight delay (duophonic?), although it does sound like true stereo... is this a new mix???]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:00:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12056&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12056 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12055&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12055 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 2574
Posted: 19 October 2007 at 12:39pm

davidclark wrote: there are also two distinct stereo mixes of "Sheila". One where the drums start off alternating center and left channel then staying mostly left, with the vocals and other instrumentation up center (the drums thing happens again at 1:03). My other stereo mix has drums and Tommy's vocal center, with guitar left and organ and background vocals right.

I just checked my mp3s -- the version of Sheila off Tommy Roe's Greatest Hits cd is mono (yes -- 45 version), the only other version I still have as an mp3 has the drums mostly centered, sometimes panning to the right a little bit, acoustic guitar is left, electric guitar is right, background vocals are right. Don't hear an organ on this song at all....i didn't like the other mix i had heard of the song so i didn't end up keeping a copy of it....stupid me, such things could always come in handy, as i've learned.]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:39:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12055&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12055 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12053&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12053 Author: davidclark
Subject: 2574
Posted: 19 October 2007 at 11:48am

I would assume that mono mix in the 45 mix. I've heard it too. Quite a different sound and feel from the stereo mixes.]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:48:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12053&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12053 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12052&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12052 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 2574
Posted: 19 October 2007 at 11:46am

To throw another wrench in, my copy of "Sheila" from Tommy Roe Greatest Hits is mono. Everything is centered, lol.]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:46:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2574&PID=12052&title=tommy-roe-sweet-pea#12052