https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 16:47:15 +0000 Wed, 02 Sep 2020 17:08:59 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2521 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55601&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55601 Author: BSharp
Subject: 2521
Posted: 02 September 2020 at 5:08pm

EternalStatic wrote: Bsharp- The song appears twice on the SoEightles6 compilation. Once as the last song in an album-length segued “mix”, and again on the “Unmixed” disc where it runs the full-length of the album version. I have used that version to recreate the single edit before. Are you sure you weren’t listening to the segued/mixed version, as that would explain why the first measures are missing? -E

That TOTALLY explains it... I had no idea about the
"unmixed" disc! I'm going to track it down now; thank
you!

(Unrelated but cool: the "Heaven Help Me" file that I
have now came from Deon Estus himself... he had shared
it via his Twitter account some time ago).

Edited by BSharp]]> Wed, 02 Sep 2020 17:08:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55601&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55601 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55598&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55598 Author: EternalStatic
Subject: 2521
Posted: 02 September 2020 at 1:29pm

Bsharp-

The song appears twice on the SoEightles6 compilation. Once as the
last song in an album-length segued “mix”, and again on the “Unmixed”
disc where it runs the full-length of the album version. I have used that
version to recreate the single edit before. Are you sure you weren’t
listening to the segued/mixed version, as that would explain why the
first measures are missing?

-E

Edited by EternalStatic]]> Wed, 02 Sep 2020 13:29:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55598&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55598 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55597&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55597 Author: BSharp
Subject: 2521
Posted: 02 September 2020 at 11:04am

PopArchivist wrote: crapfromthepast wrote: The 45 is still not available on CD. Not domestically. I bought this a long time ago. It is available on a comp out of Germany called So80s. Soeighties-6/release/13739056 "> https://www.discogs.com/Blank-Jones-So80s-Soeighties- 6/relea se/13739056

That's not the 45 version... it's a bad edit of the LP
version. For some reason this CD has the intro notes
and first 4 bars (11 seconds) of the song cut off...
it starts with the muted trumpet and runs 4:28.

It's too bad it's not even the correct album version.
The fidelity on this compilation is really good.]]> Wed, 02 Sep 2020 11:04:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55597&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55597 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55445&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55445 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 2521
Posted: 23 August 2020 at 3:37pm

crapfromthepast wrote: The 45 is still not available on CD.

Not domestically.

I bought this a long time ago. It is available on a comp out of Germany called So80s.

https://www.discogs.com/Blank-Jones-So80s-Soeighties-6/relea se/13739056

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Sun, 23 Aug 2020 15:37:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55445&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55445 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55441&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55441 Author: aaronk
Subject: 2521
Posted: 23 August 2020 at 2:20pm

To clarify, it is available on the promo CD single, which is quite rare. I don't know of any other CD source for it, though.]]> Sun, 23 Aug 2020 14:20:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55441&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55441 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55438&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55438 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 2521
Posted: 23 August 2020 at 1:54pm

Just revisiting this song, 13 years later.

The 45 is still not available on CD.

Fortunately, it's an easy edit that deletes 16 beats, from a snare hit in the word "me" at 3:59, to another snare hit in the word "me" at 4:09 or 4:10. You'll know if you got the edit points right if the word "your" immediately after the edit.]]> Sun, 23 Aug 2020 13:54:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=55438&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#55438 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=54062&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#54062 Author: Scanner
Subject: 2521
Posted: 10 April 2020 at 7:50am

Funny...that's exactly where I sourced my confusion!
The sleeve credits Michael, but the actual 45 and CD
don't. Despite Michael's obvious contribution, I lean
toward not crediting him since the record itself
doesn't.

At least Michael got some credit unlike, say, Kenny
Rogers ("What Are We Doin' In Love"), Stevie Nicks
("Whenever I Call You Friend"), Olivia Newton-John ("Fly
Away") and so, so many others.]]> Fri, 10 Apr 2020 07:50:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=54062&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#54062 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=54054&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#54054 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 2521
Posted: 09 April 2020 at 7:12pm

Scanner wrote: Should he or shouldn't he? Artist credit is always so confusing and this is yet another example. The front sleeves for this single show this is by Deon Estus With Additional Vocals by George Michael. The back sleeves relegate Michael to background vocals along with Estus. And the physical singles (record, cassingle, promo CD) only list Estus as the artist. So, should this song be credited to just Estus or to both Estus and Michael? (Why do record companies make this so frustrating?!?)

I put it down as Don Estus With George Michael as indicated in the 45 and promo CD release, just leaving out "additional vocals by" to simplify since it is impled...

promo CD

https://www.discogs.com/Deon-Estus-With-George-Michael-Heave n-Help-Me/release/4274046

45

https://www.discogs.com/Deon-Estus-With-George-Michael-Heave n-Help-Me/release/5042626



Edited by PopArchivist]]> Thu, 09 Apr 2020 19:12:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=54054&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#54054 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=54052&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#54052 Author: Scanner
Subject: 2521
Posted: 09 April 2020 at 2:02pm

Should he or shouldn't he? Artist credit is always so
confusing and this is yet another example. The front
sleeves for this single show this is by Deon Estus With
Additional Vocals by George Michael. The back sleeves
relegate Michael to background vocals along with Estus.
And the physical singles (record, cassingle, promo CD)
only list Estus as the artist. So, should this song be
credited to just Estus or to both Estus and Michael?

(Why do record companies make this so frustrating?!?)]]> Thu, 09 Apr 2020 14:02:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=54052&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#54052 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=19086&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#19086 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 2521
Posted: 04 October 2008 at 11:50am

Pat has incorporated Jim's promo CD single info into the database. I also wanted to pass along that the actual commercial 45 run time of Deon Estus with George Michael's "Heaven Help Me" is 4:26. (Timing info compliments of abagon. The printed record label time is 4:25.)]]> Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:50:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2521&PID=19086&title=deon-estus-heaven-help-me#19086