https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 10 May 2026 08:41:07 +0000 Sun, 11 Oct 2020 06:59:09 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2477 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=56201&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#56201 Author: David Pro
Subject: 2477
Posted: 11 October 2020 at 6:59am

abagon wrote: The actual running time of the American pressing "Rio" LP is "5:32" (Capitol AT-12211, the listed time "5:33") This actual running time is the same as the Japan LP containing the UK LP version. The entry time of 2 "Rio" CDs on the database is :06 or :07 shorter than the US vinyl LP. --abagon

The main difference between the LP
(5:33) and the UK 45 (5:24)
versions is the amount of times
Simon repeats "Save a prayer 'til
the morning after" at approximately
4:35 until fade out. In the LP
version it is repeated 6 times, but
4 in the UK 45 version.]]> Sun, 11 Oct 2020 06:59:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=56201&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#56201 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45492&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45492 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 2477
Posted: 29 April 2016 at 7:44am

To Jim & Bill:

Merv Amols (RIP) was great!

Who else would give me, an Albany club DJ, a promo 12" of Sheriff's "When I'm With You" (with tons of extra analog compression) 6 years before it peaks at #1? Hey, he told me in early 1983 "It's a hit!".

Who else would give me a promo 12" of the band Billy Satellte's "I Wanna Go Back" 2 years before Eddie Money would have the hit with it on Columbia...

Who else would give me a promo 12" of a future #1 "Abracadabra" in 'neither the 45 nor LP version'...

Andy


]]> Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:44:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45492&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45492 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45489&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45489 Author: Bill Cahill
Subject: 2477
Posted: 28 April 2016 at 3:22pm

So, how many times did Capitol rep (Merv) stand on top
of YOUR desk and scream at the top of his large lungs
that the new Moon Martin single was a Top 5 smash? : )]]> Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:22:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45489&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45489 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45483&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45483 Author: jimct
Subject: 2477
Posted: 27 April 2016 at 9:33pm

I know that an ever-growing # of old issues of Billboard are now available
to be browsed online. Which is great. And while I haven't spent a ton of
time browsing them to date, I do recall seeing many 80s weeks where
specific MTV videos and their rotations were listed.

And while I haven't confirmed this fact by browsing through old BB issues,
it is forever burned into my mind that MTV was playing the video of the
studio version of "Save A Prayer" a *ton* back in '83, despite it not being
released back then as a 45. That fact always surprised me, as I thought it
would've been a sure-fire Top 40 hit. But due to the crazy, multiple 45
releases/long road to Top 40 hit-dom for both "Hungry Like The Wolf"
and "Rio" (both stories are well documented in their own threads), the
entire marketing plan for that LP in the U.S. had to be basically scrapped
by the label, I was told.   

I remember our local Capitol rep (Merv) also saying to us around 5/83
that his label had always thought "Save A Prayer" could be a hit single,
hence them making a video for it in the first place. But the label had
already delayed the planned U.S. release of the next "D-squared" 45 (Is
There Something I Should Know, which had already been released in the
UK back in March), due to the Top 40 U.S. resurgence of "Rio", which
didn't end up peaking here until May. Merv said his label expected their
next LP ("Seven And The Ragged Tiger") to be ready after this new 45 had
peaked, so Capitol saw no remaining 1983 window to issue "Save A
Prayer" as a single.    

But the folks at the label clearly never forgot about the track, its
popularity as an MTV video, and its clear Top 40 hit potential, And, to
their credit, they did eventually find the proper time/place/situation to
finally release it as a U.S. single - the release of their live album.]]> Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:33:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45483&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45483 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45482&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45482 Author: aaronk
Subject: 2477
Posted: 27 April 2016 at 9:14pm

Ron, I couldn't read that quote without hearing Casey's voice in my head! "And the countdown rolls on..."]]> Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:14:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45482&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45482 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45480&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45480 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 2477
Posted: 27 April 2016 at 7:42pm

Got a real answer, just eight years after the original post!

Casey Kasem answered your question in exactly 37 seconds on March 23, 1985 episode of American Top 40:

"Now we're up to Duran Duran's hit single, 'Save A Prayer'. This isn't your usual single record with a different song on each side. This one has the same song, 'Save A Prayer', on both sides - different versions of it. The hit version that the majority of stations have been playing is Duran Duran's studio recording, released on the 1982 album, Rio. The B-side, which some radio stations are playing, is Duran Duran's live concert recording of 'Save A Prayer', from their latest album, Arena. For a change this week on AT40, we're gonna play that B-side - the live version. At number 16 this week, Duran Duran's 'Save A Prayer'."

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:42:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=45480&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#45480 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=43446&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#43446 Author: Bill Cahill
Subject: 2477
Posted: 11 April 2015 at 8:29am

I believe it depended on the market and station. I programmed KJ-103 in OKC at the time and we played the studio single version even though it was released primarily to support "Arena". ]]> Sat, 11 Apr 2015 08:29:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=43446&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#43446 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=43432&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#43432 Author: aaronk
Subject: 2477
Posted: 09 April 2015 at 6:33pm

The "live" version on the B-side of the 45 can, in fact, be edited from the version on Arena. It's been several years since I created my edited version, but I seem to recall that nothing needed to be borrowed from the vinyl.]]> Thu, 09 Apr 2015 18:33:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=43432&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#43432 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=30132&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#30132 Author: abagon
Subject: 2477
Posted: 11 May 2011 at 9:46am

The actual running time of the American pressing "Rio" LP is "5:32" (Capitol AT-12211, the listed time "5:33")
This actual running time is the same as the Japan LP containing the UK LP version. The entry time of 2 "Rio" CDs on the database is :06 or :07 shorter than the US vinyl LP.

--abagon]]> Wed, 11 May 2011 09:46:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=30132&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#30132 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=19883&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#19883 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 2477
Posted: 20 November 2008 at 11:49am

I dug out my notes for this track; unfortunately I didn't keep as detailed notes for the early '80s tracks as I did for the early '90s tracks...

I have the album version on

• Decade (1989 - best sounding version of this track)
• Pop & Wave Vol. 4 (1993; digitally identical to Decade)
• Retro Lunchbox Gooey Love Songs (1997 - also digitally identical to Decade)
• Greatest Hits Of The '80s (an 8-CD import box set; clips a lot around -3 dB)
• Time-Life's Modern Rock 1984-1989
• Now Smash Hits Of The 80's (UK, 1987)

I have a shorter edit (running about 3:42) on Now 1982 The Millennium Series (UK, 1999 - sounds not so good).

I don't have the edit on an actual piece of vinyl, so I tried to find instructions how to create the Now 1982 edit from the album version on Decade. My notes are a little too crude to piece together exactly how much to remove with each edit, but once you're done...

Your mixdown will have edits 1:12 and 2:37 and a 16-beat sinusoidal fade starting at 3:36.

Not as helpful as most of my posts, I realize, but I'll revisit these edits if there's an overwhelming desire from you guys.]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:49:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2477&PID=19883&title=duran-duran-save-a-prayer#19883