https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 07:11:02 +0000 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:43:31 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2358 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=21982&title=question-67-69-1969-version#21982 Author: Bill Cahill
Subject: 2358
Posted: 17 April 2009 at 7:43pm

Yet another incarnation. I just found a 1969 stock copy. It runs 4:45. But the label states 3:07. ]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:43:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=21982&title=question-67-69-1969-version#21982 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11250&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11250 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 2358
Posted: 24 August 2007 at 4:08pm

But, if you turn up the vocal track with reverb already added, of course you will hear more of it, and it will stand out more in the mix.

It seems to me that the original mono single version is the longest released version, and even the LP version was cut from it. No wonder the single failed in 1969. Too long. I don't know how many stations played the long version as opposed to the LP or DJ edit, but it was a time when radio was trying to break out of the three-minute single mode.]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:08:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11250&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11250 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11243&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11243 Author: jrjr
Subject: 2358
Posted: 24 August 2007 at 12:45pm

ok, bill, thanks for the detailed description! i will check it out... one thing for sure, though, there is definitely more reverb on the '69 single version (see previous post)... also, i was checking out a thread on a song lyric chat room and one guy claims the the title of "questions 67 & 68" refers to the "afterglow" the author had after free love encounters in 1967 and 1968... hmmm, i always thought it was about the ever-so-slightly disguised observations of the 1968 Chicago Democratic convention... ]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:45:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11243&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11243 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11242&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11242 Author: BillCahill
Subject: 2358
Posted: 24 August 2007 at 12:18pm

Not comparable on the edits. You probably know where they made the first edit on the introduction for the 1971 version, THAT'S the starting point of the 1969 DJ version. They started it right in the middle of the guitar wailing and it sounds pretty obvious.

Both edits chop out the second verse.

For the 1969 edit they made the edit AFTER the chorus section "I'd like to know... "

In 1971 they edited it right as the chorus starts. So the 1969 version sings something like "yeah yeah yeah" at the end of the first chorus, 1971 has "yes it does now baby" as it's actually chorus 2.

As far as the shakers or tambourine or whatever it is, yes there are some on the album version and 1971 single version, it just sounds like there is MORE on the 1969 single, and it's not just a mix difference, the shakers are faster and more vigorous.

Edited by BillCahill]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:18:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11242&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11242 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11241&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11241 Author: sriv94
Subject: 2358
Posted: 24 August 2007 at 8:49am

How comparable were the edits in the 1969 DJ 45 and the 1971 commercial 45 (there's about a 18 second difference in times)?]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:49:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11241&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11241 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11240&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11240 Author: jrjr
Subject: 2358
Posted: 24 August 2007 at 7:57am

gave a listen to lp version from "group portrait" vs. 45 version and did not notice any extra shakers, they are just mixed up higher in the 45 version (at least to my ears)... also, check out the reverb on the penultimate line of the song "yes it does now baby" sounds like it was recorded in a cave, but just that one line... also sustain on last note trimmed about 20"]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:57:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11240&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11240 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11237&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11237 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 2358
Posted: 24 August 2007 at 6:47am

Bill:

After you pointed out the added shakers a couple weeks back, and going back and listening to the 1971 GH v2 edit, I hear them in 1969's version, not 1971's.]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:47:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11237&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11237 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11236&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11236 Author: BillCahill
Subject: 2358
Posted: 24 August 2007 at 4:18am

I thought there was added reverb when I first heard it but after careful listening it's just the reverb on the vocal that's already there. It sounds louder due to the hotter vocal mix, and the extra compression brings it out more.

Sounds like extra shakers added in the instrumental section at 2:47. ]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:18:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11236&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11236 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11234&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11234 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 2358
Posted: 23 August 2007 at 7:16pm

Hey! Nice needle drops!

I do not hear any added instrumentation or added reverb at all. It's just that the vocals, drums, piano, and horns were mixed up way loud to sound good on the radio.]]> Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:16:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11234&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11234 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11227&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11227 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 2358
Posted: 22 August 2007 at 7:48pm

It is a wonderful track. Many thanks to Bill Cahill for pointing out the differences between the 1969 and 1971 versions. :)]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:48:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2358&PID=11227&title=question-67-69-1969-version#11227