https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 00:25:30 +0000 Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:30:10 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1918 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=47250&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#47250 Author: JL328
Subject: 1918
Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:30pm

So Far is in stereo but the 45 is in mono.

Musically and vocally, I don't hear any elements that are on one but not
the other, but I've never folded down the stereo to see what disappears.
]]> Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:30:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=47250&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#47250 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=47242&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#47242 Author: Ringmaster_D
Subject: 1918
Posted: 21 March 2017 at 8:45am

Did anyone ever come to a conclusion about the
difference between the version of "Ohio" on So
Far versus the single? Can you simply speed up the
So Far version to re-create the 45?]]> Tue, 21 Mar 2017 08:45:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=47242&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#47242 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=47238&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#47238 Author: Tunestony
Subject: 1918
Posted: 20 March 2017 at 7:20pm

I have a red & white label Atlantic promo 45 for CSNY's "Our House" listed as
the "plug side" backed with "Deja Vu." Both are mono. "Deja Vu" seems to
have a different feel in this mix, but it may just be a fold down.

I could post a photo, if you wanted.]]> Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:20:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=47238&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#47238 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45636&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45636 Author: Hykker
Subject: 1918
Posted: 25 May 2016 at 5:46pm

Fastphilly wrote: The earliest example I have of an Atlantic Mono/Stereo promo 45 is indeed 1972. Roberta Flack "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" and some Asylum releases (distributed by Atlantic at the time)

The earliest one I have is the Assembled Multitude's
"Overture From Tommy" from the summer of 1970. Atlantic
was a bit inconsistent on promos for a few years with some
being mono/stereo, some double A side mono/mono, others
just a white-label version of the commercial single (some
of these were stereo, others mono).
]]> Wed, 25 May 2016 17:46:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45636&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45636 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45629&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45629 Author: Fastphilly
Subject: 1918
Posted: 24 May 2016 at 10:44pm

jimct wrote: Steve, my Atlantic 2723 promo 45 copy for "Woodstock" is mono, also b/w "Helpless", is 100% red & white (no black ink was used on either the label design or title/artist).    It has a listed time of (3:52), an actual time of (3:51), and handwritten deadwax info of "A-18449-22-22" (the last two of which are much lighter, and with the first of the four ending 2's overlaying a "1".) This isn't the first time that you and I have found such mono/stereo differences to be present for Atlantic hit promo 45s around that time. Makes me wonder how many others we have yet to own/notice/document here....

If there are others it's not a common sight. Prior to 1972, finding Atlantic Mono/stereo Double hit sided promo 45's are quite scarce. I do have a few late 60's vintage Atlantic promos cut in stereo (The Red/white Atlantic promo label) of Dusty Springfield "Son Of A Preacher Man" and "It's A Beautiful Morning" by The Rascals. The flipside to those two promos are B side tracks that match the stock release.

The earliest example I have of an Atlantic Mono/Stereo promo 45 is indeed 1972. Roberta Flack "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" and some Asylum releases (distributed by Atlantic at the time) ]]> Tue, 24 May 2016 22:44:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45629&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45629 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45613&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45613 Author: jimct
Subject: 1918
Posted: 23 May 2016 at 6:25am

Steve, my Atlantic 2723 promo 45 copy for "Woodstock" is mono, also b/w
"Helpless", is 100% red & white (no black ink was used on either the label
design or title/artist).   

It has a listed time of (3:52), an actual time of (3:51), and handwritten
deadwax info of "A-18449-22-22" (the last two of which are much lighter,
and with the first of the four ending 2's overlaying a "1".)

This isn't the first time that you and I have found such mono/stereo
differences to be present for Atlantic hit promo 45s around that time. Makes
me wonder how many others we have yet to own/notice/document here....]]> Mon, 23 May 2016 06:25:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45613&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45613 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45611&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45611 Author: Hykker
Subject: 1918
Posted: 23 May 2016 at 5:34am

My promo has "Helpless" on the B side, both sides are stereo.
Does anyone have a mono/stereo promo of "Woodstock"?
]]> Mon, 23 May 2016 05:34:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45611&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45611 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45608&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45608 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1918
Posted: 22 May 2016 at 4:30pm

I've never compared the 45 to a fold-down of the stereo for "Ohio," but I have for "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes." The latter, to my ears, sounds like a fold-down and edit.

Edited by aaronk]]> Sun, 22 May 2016 16:30:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45608&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45608 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45599&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45599 Author: JL328
Subject: 1918
Posted: 22 May 2016 at 8:07am

I've read through this thread as well as the CSN "Woodstock" thread
that has some additional discussion of "Ohio" and am looking for a little
clarification...

Every appearance of this song on cd is in stereo. Are each of these
properly classified as the "dj stereo version" or is there some difference
(beyond a couple seconds of timing perhaps) between any of the CD
appearances, such as the version on "So Far", and the version that
appeared on the stereo side of the promo 45?

Second, is the mono version on the commercial 45 (and presumably
the mono side of the 45 promo) a fold-down of the stereo promo side
(with perhaps some minor fade or speed adjustments)? I've listened to
the 45 vs. the version on "So Far" and don't hear any noticeable
differences.

Thanks for any clarification.

Edited by JL328]]> Sun, 22 May 2016 08:07:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=45599&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#45599 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=25025&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#25025 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 1918
Posted: 27 January 2010 at 6:28pm

eriejwg wrote: There's a digital collection from Neil Young called Neil Young Archives 1963-1972 that contains what's called the 45rpm single of "Ohio" and runs 2:59.

John was kind enough to send me a dub of this digital download, which Amazon calls the "Stereo 45 RPM Single." Its speed matches the stereo side of the DJ 45 almost exactly, and it has an identical fadeout point at the end.

One thing I did notice, though: When I folded down each of the two - the 320kb .mp3 download and the vinyl 45 - it was clear that there was more limiting applied to the Archives track (fortunately, though, it isn't brickwalled.) The bottom end and the kick drum lack a lot of the punch that are present on the DJ 45. Here's a look at the A/B comparison, with the Archives track in red at the top, and the vinyl DJ 45 in blue at the bottom.

Edited by Yah Shure]]> Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:28:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1918&PID=25025&title=crosby-stills-nash-youngohio#25025