Aretha Franklin-"Chain Of Fools"
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Topic: Aretha Franklin-"Chain Of Fools"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Aretha Franklin-"Chain Of Fools"
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 5:47pm
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My commercial 45, which is mono and confirmed as Atlantic 2464, has a listed time of (2:45), but an actual time of (2:41).
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 6:27pm
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Looks as though you're into 1968 now. Sweet!
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 07 April 2013 at 4:12pm
if you fade the queen of soul box set version for 0:11 from
2:30 to 2:41 you can effectively re-create the vinyl 45
version....
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Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 10 March 2026 at 1:30am
It seems the 1968 Lady Soul stereo LP version of "Chain of Fools" has about twice as much reverb as the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztbcVuZIY1E" rel="nofollow - 1967/1968 mono single .
There is a mono LP, but I don't know what it sounds like.
From the following CDs, I have rips which are true to the single: • The Atlantic Singles Collection 1967–1970 • Legends of Soul vol. 4 • Atlantic Ultimate '60s Soul Sensations • Billboard Top Rock 'n' Roll Hits • Rock the Dome • Soul Hits vol. 3
Meanwhile, the mono version on the 1986 edition of the Atlantic Rhythm and Blues 1947–1974 box set (listed in the database as individual disc Atlantic Rhythm & Blues Volume 6) has the extra reverb. It seems to be a fold-down of the stereo mix, same as on the Japan-made 20 Party Classics. The box set's use of this mix should be noted in the database.
Was the fold-down what was released on the mono LP?
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 10 March 2026 at 8:48am
Atlantic R&B Vol. 6 is currently listed as "LP version," while 20 Party Classics says "stereo LP version bridged to mono." I agree this is confusing, since they are the same.
I don't know if the original 1968 mono LP has a fold-down or a dedicated mix. If it's the latter, I think the "stereo LP version bridged to mono" is more accurate for the database. If it's a fold-down on the original LP, I think just "LP version" works given that the CD is listed as (M).
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 10 March 2026 at 1:58pm
Confirming that the original release of Atlantic Rhythm And Blues 1947-1974 Vol. 6 (1985) is indeed a fold-down of the stereo version, and is not the mono 45 version. There are three differences:- Much more reverb on the stereo version
- Fade starts and ends earlier on the stereo
- Different guitar intros on the mono and stereo versions! It's literally different notes being played. You can actually hear an edit on the stereo version, as it cuts to just-about-silence before Aretha sings her first note! My guess is that the mono (45) version came out first, and the stereo version was recut to be a little shorter, so that Aretha got to the singing a little quicker (just a guess).
Warner Special Products' 20 Party Classics (1986) uses the same analog transfer as the 1985 Atlantic set.
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Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 11 March 2026 at 1:21am
Isn't there a long, undedited intro version somewhere where Aretha does some 'testifying' vocalizations before the band starts up and the song gets going into the first chorus?
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Posted By: bjhami75
Date Posted: 12 March 2026 at 7:23am
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There is a longer version of Chain of Fools that runs about 4:22 and was originally on The Best of Aretha Franklin LP back in 1973. That version (I believe) is also on the Rhino 4 CD compilation called Aretha from 2021. Not 100% sure if that's the version you're looking for. Great compilation BTW.
Brad
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